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Ernie Misner 12-18-2006 02:22 PM

Showtime 50 anyone?
 
Does anyone have any experience with the Showtime 50 yet? I have a Saito 82 that is looking for a home, and that is the largest engine recommended for the ST50, BUT they also say it weighs up to 6 lb. which makes me think a larger engine might be in order....?

Thanks,

Ernie

MikeEast 12-18-2006 04:41 PM

RE: Showtime 50 anyone?
 
If the plane weighs 6 pounds the Saito .82 should be just right. [8D]

Ernie Misner 12-19-2006 02:50 AM

RE: Showtime 50 anyone?
 
Thanks Mike. My 82 is currently on an Ultra Stick 40 which should be less than 6 lb., but I've only been runnint 10% nitro in it too. Bumping up the nitro would probably make quite a differnce in the 4-stroke.

Thanks,

Ernie

rcplanenut 12-24-2006 11:09 PM

RE: Showtime 50 anyone?
 
I just did the maiden flight on my showtime 50 with a saito 82. I think this is an excellent combo. I only took 2 flights so, I haven't rung it out yet. It should have plenty of power to do just about anything. This one is definitely a keeper.

Ernie Misner 12-25-2006 01:35 PM

RE: Showtime 50 anyone?
 
>>> I just did the maiden flight on my showtime 50 with a saito 82. I think this is an excellent combo. I only took 2 flights so, I haven't rung it out yet. It should have plenty of power to do just about anything. This one is definitely a keeper >>>

GREAT news! That is what I was hoping to hear. Let us know how it progresses.... like will the 82 hover it and have decent vertical performance.

I think the Showtime 90 had a tendency to tip stall, but maybe the reports on that I heard were inaccurate. So let us know about that, flight with and without the SFG's, etc.

Thanks loads. That might be the plane for me!

Ernie

jklatt16 12-25-2006 01:56 PM

RE: Showtime 50 anyone?
 
Check out the comment on the post for Showtime 50. If you are in 3d flying section i think its the one right above this one.

jklatt16 12-25-2006 01:58 PM

RE: Showtime 50 anyone?
 
Here. This is my post in that forum...I just copied it.


Just got it running ...this is the best flying machine I have ever flown in this size range. Im in love!!! Would recommend it to anyone and everyone. Even if pattern is more your style, you set it up right and it will track like on rails. This thing will do anything I want. Love it with the SFG's and without. The Saito .91S is the perfect motor if you want the 4 stroke. If 2 stroke is your pref. then I would recommend a 60 size engine. If going electric I would go with the 80 size range. The X50 and the Showtime both have the same engine recommendation but the Showtime's weight is more so thats why I got the Saito 91. Small lightweight (for a 91) and plenty of power!!! But not way too much power. Still able to control the throttle perfect. If you are looking for a new 3d plane in a 50 size...this should be the one. It built fast and easy. Pretty good quality too. Next I think I will try the Showtime 4D after a while unless they come out with something new.:D

Ernie Misner 12-25-2006 09:26 PM

RE: Showtime 50 anyone?
 
jklatt16, thanks for the good report. Any problem getting the right balance with that engine, or perhaps I should say if it balanced great with the 91, do you think it would be tail heavy with my Saito 82?

Also, how does it slow down and finally stall..... smooth and easy, just dropping the nose, or scary like falling out of the sky while dropping a wing tip?

Thanks loads,

Ernie

jklatt16 01-07-2007 03:42 PM

RE: Showtime 50 anyone?
 
No it for sure wont be tail heavy. Mine stalls by dropping the nose not the wings. It used to drop the left wing a little in a stall but then I sealed the hinge lines and now it drops so predictable.

jklatt16 01-07-2007 03:44 PM

RE: Showtime 50 anyone?
 
I have some pics that I will add from when all i needed to add was the radio equipment. I will post them as soon as I get my camera back. Someone borrowed it and it still had the pics in the memory card.

BigDuke1 01-16-2007 07:51 PM

RE: Showtime 50 anyone?
 
Anyone have any problems fitting the OS FS-.91 in the stock engine mount. I would rather not start drilli the firewall if I don't have to. The engine mounts look a little light for the 91.....

jklatt16 01-17-2007 09:34 AM

RE: Showtime 50 anyone?
 
Not sure on that engine but my saito 91 was just a little to wide below the engine mounts so i just used a dremel and shave off about a millimeter on both sides on the inside edges of the mounts and it fits great now.

alc5237 01-17-2007 10:48 AM

RE: Showtime 50 anyone?
 
Mine will hover with a couple clicks left running saito 72

jklatt16 01-17-2007 02:57 PM

RE: Showtime 50 anyone?
 
does anyone have any nice videos of there showtime in action?

JR 1984 01-18-2007 01:30 AM

RE: Showtime 50 anyone?
 
Just Set up my Showtime 50 all i need is an engine, realy want saito. Weght of plane is supposed to be 7.2 lbs wet, what would be the best engine for it ? Realy Sort of leaning tward Saito 82 , Love to fly 3D. Also need to know if there was a miss print on the instruction manuel for the comtrole throws- Ailerons Low rate it calls for 1/16 diffrence between up and down Should it be more up than down or more down than up someone please reply

Thanks , Jerry

jklatt16 01-18-2007 02:42 PM

RE: Showtime 50 anyone?
 
it seems the best all around engine for the ST 50 is the Saito 82. It has plenty of power. It is light weight. And I believe it is pretty much the engine this plane was built around. The 82 will have great results from what I hear.

JR 1984 01-19-2007 12:23 AM

RE: Showtime 50 anyone?
 
Thanks all i needed was a little reassurance, still i need to know about the control throws.
the ailerons on LOW call for 13 degrees UP and 12 degrees down .
on HIGH they call for 37 degrees UP and 35.5 degrees down.
I talked to a modelist who has been building and flying planes for 20 something years and he has never seen a plane with more aileron throw up than down , he says it always has about 10-15 degrees diff. in the ailerons. i want it to roll on its axis when i give L or R aileron.
How wound you set it up?

jklatt16 01-19-2007 11:59 AM

RE: Showtime 50 anyone?
 
You know you might want to ask Mike McConville what he thinks. You would prob. get the best answer from him. Seeing as he designed the plane. And if there is a typo then Im sure he would want to know about it so they could get it changed. I will check my manual and see if it says the same thing. I believe I remember thinking the same thing when I was building it. But Im not sure. So check with Mike in his pilot forum.

Ernie Misner 01-19-2007 03:10 PM

RE: Showtime 50 anyone?
 
More up than down on the ailerons is what differential is all about. That IS the way it is done as the one going down always has more authority to begin with. An aerobatic plane with a symmetrical airfoil doesn't usually need any differential however, and when flying inverted it would be a hinderance.

Ernie

jklatt16 01-19-2007 05:33 PM

RE: Showtime 50 anyone?
 
I have the low rates listed as 22 up 21 down and high as 45 up and 43 down.

maineflyer 01-19-2007 05:47 PM

RE: Showtime 50 anyone?
 
Guys,
The Fiancee is buying me a plane for a brand new Saito 1.00 and I wanted to see if the 50 would work for me. I would be running either 15x6 or 16x4W APC on it. Anyone seen this combo? How is the wing loading and will it 3D ok?
Thanks
Jeff

MMcConville 01-19-2007 05:56 PM

RE: Showtime 50 anyone?
 
We now hve video up for the ST50:

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HAN4275

maineflyer 01-19-2007 08:42 PM

RE: Showtime 50 anyone?
 
Mike is the 1.00 to much for this plane??
Thanks
Jeff

Daniel Z 01-19-2007 09:13 PM

RE: Showtime 50 anyone?
 
I saw a video with a funtana 40 disapearing with violence out of hover with the saito 100 :)

maineflyer 01-19-2007 09:15 PM

RE: Showtime 50 anyone?
 
Sounds awesome, but I am wondering how it will 3d. I want to be able to do high alpha stuff low with it..


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