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Hey CeeGee, You could set up a programable mix to do the twin elevator system. I did it with the futaba 7 cap, the only problem I had was if I adjusted the trim for the elevator, only the master would trim out and I would have to use the subtrim for the slave. Try this link [link]http://www.futabarc.com/faq/faq-9c-q512.html[/link]. It shows you how to set it for channel 2 and 7 but I think that you could use any open channel.

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Thanks Goldenclan, I was just looking at that page from Futaba and printed it so I can check into it when I get home. Great minds think alike. The FAQ page seems to have more indepth info. than my manual. I saw some other info on there about mixing and printed that so I'm getting closer. Yippie!! [8D] I'll get this electronic Rubics Cube figured out........

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CeeGee... It'll work, you just have to diddle with it some what.. But once you
have it setup... You'll never go back:-)... You can do so much with a computer
radio, and in return it'll make a few things a lot eaiser!!!... Plus as Barry said
once you get one plane setup you can just copy that info for your next plane
setup, Then you'll forget how you did it, but you can continue adding planes
to your radio:-)

Well my YS is not running great on the ground, But she does the job in the
air... Got 4 flights this morning and she ran great, just does not like to idle
to long:-(... Guy's at the field asked me why was I running to get my plane
after I put my radio on the gate radio stand, I told them I'm getting tired
using all that fuel just on the table, so I have to hurry to get it up:-).. I
guess the AZ heat is getting to the YS, But it is idleing better with the cowl
off.... She flat spins great now, Hovering is lacking pull out in this less dense
HOT air:-( She still floats good, but not as good as in the winter..... I'm
thinking of switching props to get a little more bite...

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Well, I called Futaba and he said it should be easy to set up with the 9C. He said to set up the ailerons on 1 & 6 instead of 1 & 7 and then to set up the ailerons as flaperons then to set up the elevators on 2 & 7 having the 7 be the slave to 2. Can't wait to get home and try it out. Then I'll have the flaperons for the wind like Barry was talking about....... [8D] OH YEA BABY!! :D I'll be able to bring it on down in windy situation.... [8D]

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Hey Cee Gee, Spud here I have mine set up that way and it works great . You'll like it. The reason chan.5 doesn't work is because it is just a on off switch activation. Chan 2&6 are used because of the flaperon relationship. You should be able to turn that feature on and be set as far as your ail & flap/spoil functions covered. Also check out your 2to6 & 6to2 functions out for tight loops. Hope some of this helps. Withthe 6to2 funct. you can zero out the chan2 and with a flip of a switch you'll deploy your spoil.


SPUD37 out

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:)Raideron, I know we may have discussed this earlier, can't remember, but if not, make sure your couwl is cut WAY open. I always cut the entire bottom out, sorta follow the channel under there and have about a 2 1/4" square in the front. I also cut a 2 1/2" long by 1/8" slot about 1/2 way on each side. This keeps it open and allows the air to get out which keeps it cooler. One of the problems is the ambient air around the engine gets hot and then you change the jetting because the engine is sucking hot air. If you can get that hot air away from the engine it will run much better. It sounds like that is your simptions. Anyways, I always am very aware of an open cowl. They run so much better. The other thing you can do is move to Idaho.

CeeGee, I'm glad you call Futaba. I know your radion will do all the stuff you want, it's just getting it programmed. You mentioned flaperons, don't use those in the wind, use spoilerons. The spoilerons go up, the flaperons go down. You want the up for landing in the wind. At least I think that's what I do. Oh yeah, and don't tell anybody. I want to keep that a secret.
Thanks,
Barry

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I managed to get in two flights (the second and third flights) yesterday and I must say that I'm really liking my new UCD 3D 46. Question: I noticed that the outer axle hole in one of the wheel pants is starting to get hogged out from vibration. I don't know what to do about the vibration. I double checked the prop on my magnetic balancer and it's perfect. Since the first flight, I've replaced the stock plastic spinner with a 2" Hobbico aluminum spinner. I'm guessing it's a good quality spinner, but who knows. Anyway, this particular engine (Super Tigre G.61) ran well and smooth enough for years on my Super Kaos. Maybe I should replace it with a 4-stroke .91...

Kaos

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If you are taking off from a grass strip, the wheel pants probably won't last long. I left mine off. One reason for it was if the landing gear breaks off, the wheel pants will punch some nice holes in the wing covering.

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Ron,like Barry said you need a lot of air flowing through,here is a pic of my cowl i just finished and flew today at 90deg here in trona(just as hot here)and it ran nice and cool, it wont be long and me and you will be flying in 110+.

Kaos, if you insist on keepin the pants on (no pun intended)you can jb weld or 30min epoxy a washer just inside the hole to the inside of the wheel pants that fits the axle and it will keep from washing out the hole.

awe what the heck, here is some more pics


CeeGee,here is a pic of your idea to repair my lg,worked great,Thanks

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KOKO You maiden yours yet? Stop cruising in the new wheels and fly!

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Guys, you will not believe what happened to my plane. Flew it three times Saturday and I am loving it more with each flight. Did a Harrier type landing, plane was slow crawling along and finally touched down so sweet. It was a lot of fun.
So I get home, and I am walking down the stairs to my shop and I have the plane in one hand and the wing in another. Somebody put some junk on the stairs. Long story short, my foot slipped and I fell over the edge of the stairs. I landed on an antique screen and a 27 inch color t.v ...and my plane. So I am traveling out of town for the whole week, and I have to repair the tail and the wing when I get home Thursday. The wing is very simple, the ca hinges on one side pulled out and I think I have a tear in the covering. The left side stabilizer broke and I am thinking that I will need to do the wires. I cant think that I can repair it and have it be as strong as I want it to be without the stabilizing wires you guys have been putting on. ANy idea where I can get those?

Thanks

Tom

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Go here Tom:

http://h1069991.hobbyshopnow.com/ser...=ALL&tag=qsrch

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:)gjeffers, Did you realize you are flying upside down in that picture? Great job on the cowl. Mine looks pretty much like that only I opened it up even more on the very bottom. 110? I thought that was a speed limit not a temperature.
Thanks,
Barry

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:)Hey guys...I just read where the new Futaba 14MZ can be programed to control to receivers at the same time!!! Wow. That would mean, if I put 1 receiver in 2 different planes I could fly them both at the same time?!?!?!?!? Wow! Now that would be cool. The would make for some serious formation flying. It would also give me some practice on prop repair.
Thanks,
Barry

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Barry and Gary... Hey, that kinda has a ring to it..... My cowl looks like Gary's
in the front, But not quite as big, I was going to open it a bit more, my cowl's
bottom is open clear to the ramp... Not sure if that sounded good.... I really
did not want to cut the sides, I thought I'd get enough air with the bottom cut
out... It's getting air now with the cowl off:-).... Gary on the 110, I've been
past that on the freeway:-).... And at the field, I'm home before then.. As
they told me when I got into this a year ago, You have to be here just before
sun up to fly in the summer..... I told them you gotta be crazy!!!.. Let's see
I was at the field at 5:50, sun up was five mins. later... Well Guess I'm
Plane crazy:-)... Gary great pics!!
Ahh heck, I haven't posted a pic lately...

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:)raideron. That cowl looks just like mine. You shouldn't have any airflow problems with that. Should be as good as it gets. Maybe start flying at night. Cooler then. Less crowded. Quiet. Better air density. I can't think of a reason not to. Usually no wind also. Maybe I'll start flying at night.
Thanks,
Barry

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Hey Ya'll, Great pictures Gjeffers!! Awesome inverted pass....[8D] Now stop doing that, you're making me look bad...[:-]

Well, I got my elevator mix figured out. Works perfect. All it took was some programming and lots of smoke pouring out of my cranium. I tried to set some spoilerons but it got too late and I had to get to bed. It doesn't say anything in the manual about spoilerons but I talked to Futaba again and they are basically backward flaperons.......... It's getting there.[8D]

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Gjeffers, I like the cowl picture. It looks like it eats other planes for breakfast.......[X(]

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Barry, im surprised a seasoned inverted flyer like yourself didnt notice!!! im setting up for a inverted flatspin landing in that pic:D cant imagine doing it with two planes:eek:

Ron, it didnt sound good, and im up at 500am to fly in the summer also[&:]

CeeGee, before long you will be doing that inverted flatspin landing,just dont drop that radio, you might lose those settings.(and that cowl pic does look good huh!:D

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Well, I'm back. And I got my new wheels! Pretty sweet hu? Drove like a dream on the way back to TX.
ANYWAYS.....I should be getting to the maiden early next week. since I got this truck, I have to get it ready for state inspections and get the $$$$ together for registration. Also for the inspection I have to get all new exhaust for it. Oh well, at least I got a good strait sruck to drive to the feild now.

HOCKEY!!!!!!........I think the 10 hour drive from New Mexico was enough driving for me. For a while anyways. Don't worry, I'll get the maiden out of the way soon. I'm pretty excited to get that thing in the air tho!!!!

Good pics gjeffers. The inverted pass looks great! How many flights you got on it so far?

See ya!

Joe

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well i dont see any oil under it so you must have done good, nice sruck:D

inverted pass? im on final approach for a inverted flat spin landing;)

let us know as soon as you get that thing in the air:eek:

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kokamo... I like your new sruck... Ask me.. I know how you can not
have to pay any more money on your sruck[:-]... It'll hold more than
my car huh:)
Let us know how your flight goes...

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Gjeffers, What was I thinking?? :eek: Of course that was a flat spin landing approach. My appologies....... I must have lost my mind for a second.............I guess I'm no daisy. I'm no daisy at all[&:]

Nice sruck Kokamo. Very cool.......[8D] Now get that plane out and fly it........

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:)gjeffers. Oh, I recgonize it now. You just aren't quite in the inverted flat spin yet. Silly of me not to recgonize it. Don't know how I could miss it. You haven't answered my question yet about the 100. Is it enough?
Thanks.
Barry

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gjeffers,
Holy moly, what size Saito is that sticking out of your UCD 46 cowl?

That's my UCD fleet below.

My high mileage UCD46 has a Saito 72 (there was no Saito 82 when I assembled it).
One UCD60 has a Saito 100 and the other one has an OS91 2-stroke.

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Rocketman, That's quite a gaggle of UCD's you got there. [8D] I'm envious!! ;)

Well, I've tried to do some more mixing on my 9C with my UCD but seemed to only have messed it up further. I might have to just delete the program and start over. [:@] Either that or my new UCD is sensing what I did to the last UCD and is rebeling.

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:)you guys have cursed me with all the talk of Flat Spin Landing. I did my 60 in today. The damage is sever but probably still repairable. I'm not sure whether to repair it or not. I was having such a great time with this plane. And I must admit, this year that was my 49th flight without a crash. Last year in the first 11 flights I was down 3 airplanes. I've still got the 46 and "it'll have to do". I might just retire the 60 and move on in that size. It doesn't matter how many or how few a times I crash I'm still heartbroken when I do it. This is plane number 8 for me. You think I'd learn. Well, I feel better already. Just talking about it. I better go fire up another plane for tonight. 46, here we come...
Thanks,
Barry

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:)CeeGee, In all my grief I missed what you'd said about your radio. That's a bad deal. I know when you want spoilerons/flaps you have to activate the Aux channel programming. I asigned mine to VR A which just allows me to dial as much or as little as I want. It didn't seem to bad on the programming. Maybe when I get home to night I'll do a little refresher and post how to do it. Good Luck!
Thanks,
Barry

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Barry,about the 100.......:D[8D][X(];). Just a thought,.......crashed ucd60=unused 100+ucd46=fun[sm=pirate.gif]or was that a ys110,WOWWWWWWW

Rocketman,you havent been doing your reading:),its a 100and more power +less drag =more fun(and fuel savings),just have to watch that speed!

maybe you need to move to Idaho flys Barry.:D

CeeGee, i would just maiden it with the old tx for luck(maybe).[:o]

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Barry, Sorry about your .60... It never feels good, All we can do is
learn from it.... As they say, They all have numbers on them, You
just never know when your number will be called... Heads up guy!!
But you have it right, Gotta get back up!! Well once the time is
right let us know what happened....

I almost downed mine this morning, My engine is still running funny
when it wants too....., I have been hover up higher since my engine
problems started, But this morning it seemed to be running better, so
I go vertical then into a nice flat spin, fly out inverted and apporch the
runway and pull into a hover about 8' or so and started to let it tail
slide.... Then the engine goes into it's flooded mode:-((... Luckily it
cleared out a second or so after nailing it and I saved it.... Guess I
have to stay higher until I find the problem... think I'm going to
take it apart and give it a look see, but after our fly-in this weekend.

Rocketman_... Nice fleet!! Do you notice any flight difference between
the two .60's with the different engines/weight??

gjeffers... That was what I have been thing about..... Using one of
my 110's...... Having fun huh:D

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Yea Ron, with the 100 in it this thing rockets up with the 15x6,i didnt like the 15x4 pro zinger and i broke my favrote 15x6 zinger when i busted my lg and im gonna try my apc 15x6 but that thing weighs 2.5 oz and my zinger only weighed just shy of 1oz, that is a BIG difference!!!

TRY IT YOU MIGHT NOT GO BACK:D

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:)Ever thought about repairing that favorite prop? Sew it together?
thanks,
Barry

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Your starting to scare me Barry[:o]

now so i dont have to search to much, i read back a few pages that flaps can help landing in wind?
i was just thinking about flapping my plane, so do i flapperon or spoileron?(i assume flapperon is down)
Thanks

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ok i found it, post 1874,spoilerons,15-30%

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:)Spoilerons are a well kept secret. I use them quite a bit. Especially when I have a rearward CG. It really helps in landing. If it's windy make sure you complete your turn into the wind and at the runway THEN dial in 15-30 degree spoileron (flaps that go up not down) This will make the nose go down and be consistent without flare ups with wind gusts. Sometimes you'll start to fall a little faster than you want so you just give a little up elevator. Helps you land like a trainer. But you lose a lot of control in the turns with spoilerons, or flaps for that matter. So I always try to do all my turning before deploying them. Try it first with a smaller amount to get the feel for it. This also helps in non pumped engine applications as the fuel drains off the nose gets lighter. Spoilerons lessen the effect. I use a little spoileron in my flat spins although it can make it hard to recover, (hence the now famous "flat spin landing") but it will make your flat spins nicer. Just make sure you stop spinning with enough altitude to recover nicely. And last but not least, I use them in hover. It makes that easier also but again not so easy to recover although not to bad. In spins and hovers I only use about 5 degrees. Be sure and turn them off when you complete the maneuver or your other flying will be compromised. It's a true 3Ders secret so don't share it with too many people.
Thanks,
Barry

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Barry, my tx is not switch variable,only when i go into the setup,so would 15-30deg be somewhere in the neighborhood of 1/2-1in of movement?

Thanks

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Don't forget to switch it off after landing, Or you'll need more runway to
get up on the next flight.... Don't ask how I know:-)... But I guess for
you Gary, it would be no problem with that 100 in there:-) I have mine
setup on my flap switch...

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:)The UCD60 that I wadded had a Saito 100. I've been thinking about what you said. Maybe I'll take that engine in put it in the 46. What could it hurt? You seem to like yours. HuMMMMMMMMMmmmm...
Thanks,
Barry

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Hey Barry, I'm really sorry to hear about your 60 UCD. Arrrggghhhh!!! [:@] I'm glad I wasn't there to see it..........

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Do it,its really a little over-rated as to how much overpowered it is! i will be a power nut from now on:D
I really do love how it flys and i believe its well within the limits of this plane, providing you dont overspeed.
DO IT!

and ill try to remember Ron,but the brain cells are going fasttttttt[sm=bananahead.gif]