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I'd find some depron foamy plans and build one. It' only takes a couple of hours to make a nice little plane. Crash a couple dozen of them and learn to 3D, then buy a big one. Sims are great but the real thing is a little different. Just my two cents.

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Thats a good idea, but, where could you get Depron plans ? Thanks.

TF96

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I have a OS 55AX in my ucando 46. The Saito 82 would also be an excellent choice.

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I was also thinking of seeing if someone would want to trade my UCD .60 for a UCD .40 because I already have an engine, servo, receiver, batt., etc. for it from another plane. I'll do a little research online and see.

TF96

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Getting back to the original question of a first 3D plane, I still reccomend the profiles. The OMP Edge ARF is a great plane and you will learn the skills you need to succeed at 3D. Learning 3D is tough on you and especially the plane. Profiles take the abuse and keep going where most full bodied planes will not. Plus most profiles git very easily in the limited space requirements you listed. Also you might want to steer clear of the U-Can-Do for learning any real 3D skills. They are alot of fun to fly but will only hinder your ability to learn 3D correctly.

Liek you I have steered away from Profiles for quite awhile but I wish I had got one sooner. They are a blast to fly. Check out the Profile Brotherhoods website if you get a chance.

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I agree the OMP Edge is a great plane to learn 3D with. I have flown many of the OMP profiles including the 47" edge and the UCANDO 46. But IMHO the UCANDO 46 would also be a excellent plane to learn 3D. Yes, the profiles are more durable but thats why you should fly 3 mistakes high. So you don't crash as much. Profiles break almost as easy as full fuse planes (I've crashed enough of them to know) So, if she said she doesn't want a profile at this time then why try to convince her otherwise. Profiles are fun, but there not the only plane out there. Now if you want the best 3D plane out there then try the OMP Hybrid (1/2 profile and 1/2 full fuse:D)

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I really like the looks of the hybrid & it seems as if it would be a great flyer ! I still have to take somethings into consideration. Plus I just noticed its "Out of Stock" Plus on top of that its a Kit and I'm not sure if it would be the easiest of planes to build.

http://www.ohiomodelplanes.com/92edgehybrid/index.htm

TF96

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TruBlu...I have to totally agree with you as to the 3d competency of the U-Can't-Do's. I'm just as "thrilled" about Twists (and all similar-styled planes). I figure if I'm going to have to deal with the con's of a full-fuse plane...it's going to be pretty. If I want all-out incredible performance, I'll take a slab. Those half-and-half mixtures are just failures, uniting the con's of both types of planes.

TF96, I know you don't want a profile plane....but I need to be completely honest with you. My third plane was a Funtana X50 (also not good for 3D). I learned very little from it. While I was flying it, I picked up a profile plane and within 2 days of flying went from hovering for 5 seconds at a time 3 crashes high....to hovering for nearly a minute about 30ft up. The only 3D move the Funtana taught me was the inverted harrier. I did walls, blenders, spins, KE, harriers (upright and inverted), HA KE, and hovering. I then tried going bak to the Funtana X50 and didn't have a very easy time doing anything. In fact, I had improved noticeably but not enough (and it didn't perform very well, even in the hands of El Salvador's best pilot). I got a Tribue 36 (with an OS 46AX) and a Charger CR-1 foamy and those have taught me everything I know. I have learned rolling harriers (and a couple other things I can't quite remember) with them, and have further tuned everything I already knew 3D-wise. Profiles really are the way to go. If Hangar9 hadn't hiked-up the price of the Tribute I'd recommend it. However, I'll recommend any OMP profile or Mojo instead. Seriously consider profiles, regardless of how unpretty they are.

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[quote]ORIGINAL: victorzamora

Those half-and-half mixtures are just failures, uniting the con's of both types of planes.

WoW, you must have never flown the OMP Hybrid. It's so easy to do 3D with this airplane I feel like I'm cheating every time I fly it.

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Sorry, I should've clarified. I wasn't talking about the hybrid. I meant truly full-fuse planes that aren't scale at all and have those fat wings. I was talking about U-Can-Do's and Twists and those planes. The OMP hybrid is more of a profile plane with a fatter fuse (for strength, I believe). The OMP hybrid would be on my list of planes to buy.

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Since I got my profile I have noticed an increase in my skills on my other planes as well. Profiles are not pretty. I think most people will agree on that but they more than make up for it with their insane fly abilities. TF96, looks alone should not be the biigest consideration when learning 3D. Once I got over that I have seen a large in improvement in my flying abilities. Best of luck to you!

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I do want to clarify that looks can become important. Later on, you NEED a prettier plane than a profile to be able to present 3D maneuvers gracefully more easily. As well as I think profiles fly, and as much as I think they help...I no longer have one. Once you learn to 3D, you can buy a better looking aircraft to further enhance your skills. However, your 3D will progress much quicker with a profile.

One more thing...if you have Realflight you can go to "Virtual Flight Instruction" and have virtual tutorials for several maneuvers. They're pro's and have pretty effective tips and tricks for most of the maneuvers. They also do most of your common 3D stuff. Once you get your bearings there, slowing the physics speed down on those particularly pissy tricks (like rolling harriers/circles) REALLY helps out a lot. Some stuff, like walls and hovering, don't really benefit as much from slower physics speed.

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Here is a link to My Hybrid and it is my favorite so far and i am now building a EF extra 300. Hope it will be my favorite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB7boY729G4

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HI CRAIGTEFFEwere do you get the yellow and red plane in the video- what is the planes name and size- what engine is used here- thanks

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Its Built by me and the kit is sold and designed by Mike at OMP. The engine i'm using is a DL 50 runs great.

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DL's are terrible engines. Did you see how little trust Craig had in it? He wouldn't even hover low, much less near the water!

Haha, Craig...I'm saving up (slowly) for a 50cc plane. It's getting a DLE-55. That's some pretty good flying on your part. I think I'm going to need some better thumbs before I do that, but hopefully my thumbs will be working on a 50cc Edge by Christmas. Yup, I told you I was saving slowly. I'm going to be a sophomore at Virginia Tech. We don't have a lot of money (college kids that is).

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Thanks.

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Thats some great flying Craig !!! I checked out both videos and both were great ! How easy was the kit to build ? And what did you use for servos in it ? Thanks.

TF96

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HI CRAIGTEFFEnice 3D flying for sure- love your covering work- looks sweetthat DL-50 does a real nice job in that airframehow do i contact MIKE- what prop and sevos are in her -REGARDS TONY

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Here are a couple links to build threads take a look.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_66..._1/key_/tm.htm

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_73...tm.htm#8752588
I used 5955 on all surfaces and when building the wing i used one servo per surface instead of 2 like the plans say.
If you have any more questions post to one of those threads i will reply.

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I think I might go onto KnifeEdge software and see if theres a Hybrid type plane to try out.

TF96

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TF96,

If you run across a file on the knife edge site go ahead and post the link in here. I would like to try it as well. I haev never had much luck searching that site. Normally I just run acros something by chance. There is a really great MOJO 40 file on there as well. I have the file on my computer at home if you want it. Let me know and I can get it to you.

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I went to the Knife edge pages and couldn't find a Hybris but did find the Mojo ARF File for realfight. This is a really well made plane and flys just like the real thing. Check it out I think you may be suprised how fun it is.

http://knifeedge.com/forums/download...o=file&id=3093

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Oh, I already uploaded a Mojo on my G3.5 way before there was any mention of KnifeEdge :) I like it, it might take some getting used to though. Yeah, I looked for a Hybrid and had no luck either.

TF96

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Free depron foamy plans. Scroll down to the bottom. The 3dx is cool but I liked the ultimate better...[link=http://www.foamyfactory.com/airplanes.htm]http://www.foamyfactory.com/airplanes.htm[/link]