kyosho are a better nitro but they are also alot more money, be prepared to spend over $300 for a kyosho off road if not more. my onroad fwo5 cost me over $300 so i am sure you are looking at over $300. if you want to know more about kyosho go to the kyosho thread. get the volcano stx or sv, i like my stx, just buy a couple of spur gears for it.