I have 0 trim in idle up 1 and 2 useing tail lock. I have left 4 in N in rate mode. This is due to my 10X code 47 tail-pitch curve not being dialed in a 100% but plenty good for what I use if for. I mainly just spool up in rate mode on the 5000T and once the 80 is warmed up I switch to idle up and go to tail lock. I own three 5000T's. I few clicks either way on the trims in any flight mode is not a factor.

Rick