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Old 05-09-2007 | 02:21 PM
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Str8shooter
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Default RE: Do you know this jet guy?

HOW TO AVOID A SCAMMER 101:

Scammers prey on:
1. Victims looking for the such a great deal that their Spidey sense is ignored
2. Victims who just don't know any better
3. Victims who trust too easily

Scammers are good, they make the deal look so good too. But sometimes you can call them out easily.
Common Sense tells you not to hand over a bunch of cash without verifiable proof or good references or at least having an insurable way of paying like a CC.

Interestingly enough, raisethehammer ryhmes with imascammer..

First step: First you act like an overzealous new guy with just enough knowledge and REALLY want the item. Sometimes, Diffuse your question with false info. (Scam the Scammer) and be polite and submissive.

QUESTION TO raisethehammer:
Wow, sweet Jet! I've always wanted an F18. How does she fly? Stable in the air? I think there are some guys here who can probably help me fly it. wow, she looks great. I wish you had a buy it now, I'd take it for $3000, can't stand the bidding process! Is the Titan motor any good, plenty of power? And can you ship it, I just moved to Nevada but maybe too far to get it here.
Thanks for your time.
Tommy

HIS REPLY:
Yes very stable and flys brilliant , fantastic!!! the titan motor is in mint condition , plenty of power. I will ship it to nevada for $125! Yes if you want the plane il sell you it for $3000 thats including shipping. Pay by paypal to [email protected] , and i will remove it from auction for you asap. Thank you

You can see that he immediately asks for payment without you getting any more information or any dialog about the details/phone numbers, nothing. Yes, great, just pay...
He wants your money, that's all.

Now that you know he's a scammer, offer a safe way of paying or offer to meet in person. Note that he didn't take the $125 quick cash, he wants the big $.

YOUR REPLY BACK:
Fantastic, thanks Eddy.
I have an account with escrow.com so I just filled out the form regarding the jet and your info. In my account they will deduct the $3000 plus I added another $300 for your trouble to use the escrow system so I hope that's ok. So when I receive the jet, the $3300 will be transferred to your paypal account. Because it is such a large money deal, your protected as well and it costs you nothing. Furthermore to instantly cover your shipping costs, i'll paypal the $125 shipping amount to you so you're not out that money.
Sound fair, please let me know if this is ok and cancel the auction to me,
thanks eddy,

Check out his reply and then the demand for the money or else!!! you, the overzealous buyer, will not get the item!! so he wants to make a quick $2,000 and has the balls to call someone else a scammer! which, of course, is true at this point.

HIS REPLY BACK.
In your dreams! im a member for over 5 years my freind! people like you have tried this scam with me before! it never works so just quit it! full amount now by paypal! or at least $2000 then the rest after delivery by myself! or else nothing

Offer to meet in person to hand him the cash.

YOUR REPLY BACK:
Eddy, sorry, that's ok not using escrow, I do have some business in Cali anyway, just stopped by the bank and withrew the cash for the jet. I can meet you in person to deliver the $3,000 so you know that I'm not a scammer. I'm on the road in a minute so Send me a reply back and I'll get it on my blackberry on where you'd like to meet. I'll be there before your auction ends. Now you don't have to ship it either!
Tommy

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