All right folks, I've had several complaints about this thread and I must say there are specific area of a lot of posts that are borderline insulting and degrading to quite a few people. I am politely asking that the name calling and such back off as well as the certain terms to peoples life style (ie where they live).

If this cannot stop and right now I will lock this thread as it would take way too much to clean it up. This will be the only warning and any threads that may be started if this thread does get locked will meet with the same fate once it goes off the deep end

Ok so lets get this back on the subject of the plane and keep it civil and well within the rules, thanks