sinergy,

You mentioned that to me but I did not see the pics, not sure if I want to. I'm sitting here staring at a brand new DA100 and a DA150. The 100 is going in the Edge for now and the 150 is going into my 40% Carden Cap. The 100 in the Edge is gonna be a total blast. I got sick of 3W singles. Their twins rock though , but I got great deals on these new ones.

Folks,

Here is something you may want to practice. At Butcherfest this year, Pete Castine ran what he called a "Short Unknown" It was not IMAC legal and was not part of the contest but it was scored and some cool prizes were given it. It was a total blast. This was the one given to the basic guys. It will very quickly teach you proper use of the rudder.

The goal is to not lose any altitude, yaw the nose or change direction, basically keep a perfectly staright line. It sounds easy but it's really hard as heck. You will fly it one way and then turn around and fly it EXACTLY the opposite. YOu MUST keep the roll rate EXACTLY the same and the delay in the points exactly the same amount.

Here we go these are all rolls followed by a hammer and then all rolls,

Flying into the wind do a 3 of 4 followed by 1/2 roll in the opposite direction, followed by another 3 of 4 in the opposite direction of the half roll. Fly out, pull a hammer and come back downwind now do the 3 of 4 in the opposite direction of the first one you did, then 1/2 roll in the opposite direction, followed by another 2 of 4 in the opposite direction.

Now to make it really interesting. vary the speed between each "sequence"

To lay it out like a caller would call it and flying left to right

In the box

3 of 4 to the right
1/2 roll to the left
3 of 4 to the right

Hammer (nothing up or down

3 of 4 to the left
1/2 roll to the right
3 of 4 to the left

Out of the box

I created an Aresti for it. It's not pretty and does not include the "K" factors...

http://www.thehiddenhangar.com/files...nown-basic.pdf