Cool!. My main concern is how to label the combinations of maneuvers to write next to the aresti symbols on my chart/sheet. This would be useful for a friend or fellow flyer at the field who may be helping (or trying to) get me through the sequences that are written on my trusty sheet. For instance for the first maneuver in the 2008 Sportsman, would calling it a "reverse sharks tooth with 2 points of a 4 point roll on the 45* upline followed by a 45* upline with 1/2 roll" be the preferred description?. Man, by the time your caller is finished with that mouthfull, I'd be about out of fuel! Then the next maneuver might be called an inverted reverse immelman?? Since I'm relatively new at this Imac/aresti stuff I was wondering how/what the pros call them or if there already is a shorter name for these tied together complex maneuvers.[sm=spinnyeyes.gif]