Dave thanks for the vote of confidence, already gave up on even trying to talk with BalsaUSA, just went ahead and made parts I needed and worked inbetween the lines on plans and booklet. As for Riley Wooten's place boy that had to be a quick and hot fire. Hope he can recover have done much business with him over the years. Thanks everyone for your support and understanding that all I wanted to do is find out if this was a new trend for BUSA or if I just drew the short end of the straw.