Ok so here is my 2cents. If there is a plane out there that I would recommend it would have to be the nitro Alpha RTF! I have owned and flown many of these electris and they are ok at best. I feel by the time you start getting comfortable with the plane the battery dies so now you land and start all over. I own the Alpha and now she is on skis for the winter and it has to be one of my favorites to fly still to this day. I know the initial investment is a little more but the batteries for the electrics offset this investment 10 fold I think. Poorwboy just get the nitro and some paper towels and a bottle of windex and go out and fly all day with no down time to charge the batteries. I have had the J3, Folke Wolfe, Sky FLy, and a few others and I like the nitro way better.