lol..i dont understand what the problem is..i fly my twin rotor robbins and my walkera lama out side and never crashed..i think they are a ton of fun..i almost did a complete loop with mine..all seven of my dual rotor helis run fine .with wind or with out..i just know how to fly one thats all..i have full colective heis as well and i enjoy my dual rotor helis the best..and what even more exciting is my 9 year old daughter can fly one outside and she has had some hard landings but never bent shafts or any thing..i think you just need practice or you are over confident..lol...i am going to do a video next week and loop one of my dual rotor helis just to show people it can be done...ps i think the cx2 and all the cps and especialy the 400 pro helis are total junk!!!!,,the only thing the 400 pro is good for is a looking piece..and still it doesnt look that good..lol,,well anyways good luckto ya!! try a robbins 22 those helis fly awsome..and they do handle well in the wind..