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Old 03-20-2005 | 07:26 AM
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I have a Sig Rascal 110 that I need an engine for. I am new to giant scale gas so I need advise. I am looking at the YW-24 or YW-48 twin, Brison 2.4, and the F.P.E. 13 or 24. All I know for sure is that I want gas not nitro. And I want a user friendly engine that is easy to tune and reliable. Anybody else out there have any other ideas or have experience with one of the engines I listed.

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Old 03-20-2005 | 02:35 PM
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Seen one fly using the G-26, very nice combo.
fit nice and tight
Slow flight, real slow
The 48 would be too much.
stay in the 25cc area.
Old 03-20-2005 | 02:41 PM
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Not one of your choices but maybe should be...A Zenoah G26 converted to electronic ignition with a Dale Abell muffler, $435 shipped in the CONUS [8D]
My customers claim this combo will knife edge the Rascal 110 the length of the field..
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I have looked at the Zenoah but I didn't want to go the cheapest and it is the cheapest I have found. I'm not saying anything bad about Zenoah engines, I just don't want to cut any corners with this plane. I know that the YW-48 would be alot more power than I need but By being a twin would't it run smother than a single and as far as weight, it weighs less than a Zenoah G26. I figured I could always throttle back.
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Where can I find a Zenoah converted like you say? The web address you give after your name doesn't work.
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I'm really sorry the price is too low..For those of you who equate price to excellence the price to you is $800..Now the G26 is the BEST small engine in the world..
That web address sometimes works, sometimes doesn't....
www.rcignitions.com DOES work, it's not much better but has the correct phone number and address...
Buy a YW, the I hear the service and ignition are GREAT....[8D]
Old 03-20-2005 | 11:11 PM
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I'm not saying anything bad about the Zenoah. On the contrary, I have not ruled it out yet. My problem is I don't know much about these engines and I have had other people tell me that the cheaper engines like the Zenoah, Fujis, and First Place Engines are just weedeater or chainsaw conversions. Maybe I have gotten bad advise. That's why I came here. As far as YW service goes, I have been talking to them and I have to say that they have better email communication and have been more willing to help me than anyone else has. Plus every complaint I have seen about them has been engines that were bought outside the US and then sent to Korea for service when they could have been sent to YW USA and gotten much better service.
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Dang... now you went and did it. The best engine I have has now gone up 100% in price. Seriously, you don't need anything more than about 24cc - 26cc on that SIG. The engine RCIGN1 mentions runs very smooth, pulls my 13.5# 1/4 Pitts S2C all over the sky and at 17# thrust has great vertical. Parts are easy to come by and service can be obtained from one of the fantastic people here on RCU or warranty through Horizon (if it hasn't been modified). If you are new to gassers, the Zenoah is a great place to start. Just my 2 cents worth and experience with a great engine.
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I have a Rascal 110 that origionally had a G-26 on it.It now has a Moki 1.8, I have a friend with a First Place 1.4 or something close on it. The G-26 was without question the best combo.
The 1.8 has totally overpowered the thing, the 1.4 will just keep it in the air. My friend is thinkin about placeing a Brison 2.4 on his now.
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These numbers are from manufacture web sites or from distributors.

G-26 3.7 lbs 16x8 APC @ 8900
Fuji 32 3.7 lbs 2.2 hp @ 10,000 rpm 18x8 at 8,300 RPM (recommended by SIG)
F.P.E. 1.3 2.5 lbs Thrust: 10 lbs @7,400 rpm with 16x8 prop
Brison 2.4 2.75 lbs 21 lbs thrust
YW 24 2.3 lbs 16x8 prop spinning at 8400 RPM

Bye the numbers the YW and the F.P.E. looks mighty good.
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Now thats a confusing looking post. It didn't quite format like I thought it would.
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I think the 1.60 MVVS gasser should also be considered.
Light, slim and powerful on 16x12 to 20x6 props
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Just remember... the first goal is to have fun. There are many engines that will fit the bill for the Rascal but don't get so caught up in getting the perfect engine that it ruins your flying experience and enjoyment. Any one of the smaller engines that have been mentioned will work unless you are hoping to get 3D performance. If you want to fly 3D, this is not the plane for it nor is it going to be a high performance aerobatic bird with that 110" wing. I've heard it will knife edge well though
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Now my 2 cents for what it is worth.

First you will not get any better service than thru Ralph @ rcignitions. He will answer every question you could possibly ask. He always has for me. He is out-sourced to fix many other manufactures engines and has a racing history to boot. He probably has been fixing engines for longer than I have been alive. Not that he is that old or anything

Zenoahs are a durable engine, not expensive, but not cheap in the sense of a POS. They are piston ported but so are a lot of engines. (Brison's, Tarus', etc. and they are not considered cheap, infact some are very expensive)

I "believe" my converted g26 weighs 2lbs. 4oz. would have to double check though.

Now for the numbers I see on my new rcignition CONVERTED g26 that only weighs 2lbs+
Mezj-18x6-9100+ rpm with 17+ lbs thrust on a digital fish scale
various 16x8's- approx. 8500-8900 with 13-15 lbs thrust on fish scale

ORIGINAL: n001pa

I'm not saying anything bad about the Zenoah. On the contrary, I have not ruled it out yet. My problem is I don't know much about these engines and I have had other people tell me that the cheaper engines like the Zenoah, Fujis, and First Place Engines are just weedeater or chainsaw conversions. Maybe I have gotten bad advise. That's why I came here. As far as YW service goes, I have been talking to them and I have to say that they have better email communication and have been more willing to help me than anyone else has. Plus every complaint I have seen about them has been engines that were bought outside the US and then sent to Korea for service when they could have been sent to YW USA and gotten much better service.
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Gotta like a guy with a name like Ralph
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On the same note
I pancaked the 26 a while back and broke both the blades of that mejzlek. I sent it to Ralph so he could bend it back, 7-8 days after it was sent in I had it back. It is probably only a matter of time before he see it again.
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Don't be fooled by price. I have 5 Zenoah's from an RCIGN G26 to a GT80 twin. They are very good engines and last forever. The only thing you MAY gain by spending more money would be a higher power to weight ratio.

Don't be afraid of Zenoah.
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Being new to the gas engines / giant scale the Sig Rascal 110 with a converted
G-26 would still be my best advise.
Makes for a great combo, and all around fun plane.
If you want to get a plane to get your feet wet, this will work very well.
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I did a little more research on the C-26 and discovered I have to really cut the cowl up alot[]. I don't mind to much having to cut the side for the carb but, to have to cut the other side as well? I know it will be hard to find an engine that will fit in the cowl but I really don't want to cut it up to bad. The YW will fit in the cowl with just the velocity stack sticking out.

Birddog-RCU I don't want 3D or anything like that but I have discovered that having some extra power is nice to get yourself out of trouble. I even found some pictures of a Rascal 110 hovering a few inches off the ground with a G-26. The reason I was considering the YW-48 is because it is lighter than a G-26 and those cylinders would look really good sticking out both sides of the cowl. I figured I could throttle back or even program in a governor in the transmitter. I don't think I will actually go for this engine though.

I really don't want to cut the cowl so I think the Zenoah is out.

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I say go for it then. We look forward to hearing how you like your YW.
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Let's see, A Zenoah G-26 that is too cheap.and you would have to cut the cowl to use it. Then by all means, go ahead and get the YW 48 twin, it should fit in there just fine, and look at the money you'll have spent by the time you get through running it. Nothing cheap about that.
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I would like to see some photos of a Rascal 110 with the G26. I want to see how much the cowl has to be cut to fit the engine.
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Default RE: What engine should I use.

This is with a G-26. I don't mind the carb to much but I would hate to have to cut the other side as well.




Bob Laine, I know I would have to cut the cowl for a twin but I doubt anybody could argue with the fact that YW makes some of the best looking engines available and that twin cylinders look great on a plane like this. Only an idiot would want to hide an engine like the YW-48 and show off a Zenoah.

Carl
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Default RE: What engine should I use.

I really was only kidding with my comments about the cowl. I also love twin engines and Bi-planes. I just sold my Rascal 110, it was a great flying airplane with an Enya, 120 4/S. If I'd had a 3w 48 B2,I would have put that in the Rascle. I'll be picking up another 3W56b2 in Toledo. Good luck with your project. "You pay's your money and you takes your choice". That's what it's all about.
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I think it would be a perfect plane for a Ryobi 31cc convesion....this engine has a rear mounted carb and exhaust, and should fit completely inside the cowl with no cutting. Only issues is the length, about 7 1/2 inches I believe, but the rascal has a long cowl anyways. Engine cheap too...


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