FAT YAK
02-09-2010, 03:05 PM
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what some people are willing to settle for is not the issue. let us quit beatting around the bush. if a "quick build", "wourld class", "contest winning", "lightweight designed", high end purchase price, with "great company", "great survice" plane weighs in well over ADVERTISED weight who should be responsible? i think we are about to find out! i have an opinion but so does everone.( if you want alot of opinions read the AMA forums here here on rcu -unbelievable) skysfallin, i hope you get satisfied. Rocco i love your planes. talk to each other, because flying these plane at there designed weight is more fun. happy flying, capt
what some people are willing to settle for is not the issue. let us quit beatting around the bush. if a "quick build", "wourld class", "contest winning", "lightweight designed", high end purchase price, with "great company", "great survice" plane weighs in well over ADVERTISED weight who should be responsible? i think we are about to find out! i have an opinion but so does everone.( if you want alot of opinions read the AMA forums here here on rcu -unbelievable) skysfallin, i hope you get satisfied. Rocco i love your planes. talk to each other, because flying these plane at there designed weight is more fun. happy flying, capt
02-09-2010, 03:51 PM
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I am reserving my judgement until after the first flight trials, this includes proper set up of the plane and breakin of the engine to make sure that it is getting full power when asked of it. I don't know what roll Mark plays there but I just felt blown off and I'm just not feeling all warm and fuzzy with the customer service so far. I would like to here from other pilots who have this plane and if they have weighed it and how it flies in their judgement. I have been very reserved here in my comments and as I said before I will heap on the praise of Aeroworks if this plane flies up to my expectation, and my expectation is not of competition caliber, but someone who can fly competently, loves this hobby and only expects what I payed for.
02-09-2010, 05:38 PM
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Ive have 4 aeroworks planes, all 50 cc. They have all come in at the advertised wieight. Someone made a comment about the 50cc edge, mines came in at 17 lbs 7 oz no fuel, thats with two 2300 mah a123 on dual recievers and a 2700 mah nmh for the ignition, DLE 55. Im having a hard time with there being 2 lbs difference in the same two airplanes with the same equiptment
02-10-2010, 04:19 PM
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Everyone tells me the same thing and I will probably take it out with the second battery and switch, but that it only six oz. for those items. That still leaves me at 19 lb. 2oz. Until this plane is at 18 or less I don't think it will perform as it should.
02-10-2010, 08:08 PM
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Everyone tells me the same thing and I will probably take it out with the second battery and switch, but that it only six oz. for those items. That still leaves me at 19 lb. 2oz. Until this plane is at 18 or less I don't think it will perform as it should.
Everyone tells me the same thing and I will probably take it out with the second battery and switch, but that it only six oz. for those items. That still leaves me at 19 lb. 2oz. Until this plane is at 18 or less I don't think it will perform as it should.
02-11-2010, 08:15 AM
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Gergman, So you are running three batteries. Have you weighed them? I am curious how much weight difference in weight there would be in the batteries I have. I am running NMHI 2000 mah . They weigh 3.2 oz. apeice. Even if I got rid of the power expender at three oz. we are splitting hairs here. For what ever reason this particular air frame is heavier than usual. I can undress it and take off the spinner and add every carbon accessory they have and what do I have. An undressed plane still over the advertised weight of these planes. Yes it will fly, but I have to go back to the original reson I bought an Aeroworks plane to begin with. Iwanted a top of the line plane which would deliver excellent flying characteristics, and like capt 1597 said put a two pound block of lead in any of your planes and go fly them and see if they fly the same. You asked how I weighed the plane. I have two digital scales. One goes to 15 pounds and the other goes to 100. I put two five pound bags of suger on both scales and they read ten pounds (actually the smaller scale reads in 1/8 oz. increments and it read ten poundsand 1/4 oz. to account for the bags.) so I think hey should be on the same page as far as reading correctly.
02-11-2010, 09:47 AM
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Grotesque, are you enjoying this weather as much as I am?
Grotesque, are you enjoying this weather as much as I am?
02-11-2010, 10:24 AM
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Everyone tells me the same thing and I will probably take it out with the second battery and switch, but that it only six oz. for those items. That still leaves me at 19 lb. 2oz. Until this plane is at 18 or less I don't think it will perform as it should.
Everyone tells me the same thing and I will probably take it out with the second battery and switch, but that it only six oz. for those items. That still leaves me at 19 lb. 2oz. Until this plane is at 18 or less I don't think it will perform as it should.
The thing to remember is all that little weight adds up on airplanes of this size. Any wood built airplane will have variances in weight due to the density of the wood. You must also remember that the yak has gone through many reinforcing measures from our original airplanes that have added weight; this has also made the airplanes very durable. The durability of our airframes is why they last for 2, 3 or even more seasons while still looking brand new. Like I said when we spoke on the phone, I would wait until you fly the airplane to judge its performance. Please let me know if there is anyway I can help or answer any questions you may have.
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02-11-2010, 11:19 AM
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Gergman, So you are running three batteries. Have you weighed them? I am curious how much weight difference in weight there would be in the batteries I have. I am running NMHI 2000 mah . They weigh 3.2 oz. apeice. Even if I got rid of the power expender at three oz. we are splitting hairs here. For what ever reason this particular air frame is heavier than usual. I can undress it and take off the spinner and add every carbon accessory they have and what do I have. An undressed plane still over the advertised weight of these planes. Yes it will fly, but I have to go back to the original reson I bought an Aeroworks plane to begin with. Iwanted a top of the line plane which would deliver excellent flying characteristics, and like capt 1597 said put a two pound block of lead in any of your planes and go fly them and see if they fly the same. You asked how I weighed the plane. I have two digital scales. One goes to 15 pounds and the other goes to 100. I put two five pound bags of suger on both scales and they read ten pounds (actually the smaller scale reads in 1/8 oz. increments and it read ten poundsand 1/4 oz. to account for the bags.) so I think hey should be on the same page as far as reading correctly.
Gergman, So you are running three batteries. Have you weighed them? I am curious how much weight difference in weight there would be in the batteries I have. I am running NMHI 2000 mah . They weigh 3.2 oz. apeice. Even if I got rid of the power expender at three oz. we are splitting hairs here. For what ever reason this particular air frame is heavier than usual. I can undress it and take off the spinner and add every carbon accessory they have and what do I have. An undressed plane still over the advertised weight of these planes. Yes it will fly, but I have to go back to the original reson I bought an Aeroworks plane to begin with. Iwanted a top of the line plane which would deliver excellent flying characteristics, and like capt 1597 said put a two pound block of lead in any of your planes and go fly them and see if they fly the same. You asked how I weighed the plane. I have two digital scales. One goes to 15 pounds and the other goes to 100. I put two five pound bags of suger on both scales and they read ten pounds (actually the smaller scale reads in 1/8 oz. increments and it read ten poundsand 1/4 oz. to account for the bags.) so I think hey should be on the same page as far as reading correctly.
Im trying to see different solutions for you without buying CF parts.
02-11-2010, 12:42 PM
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I just pulled the spinner, the ign battery , the power expander , and one of the rx batteries and weighed each piece. The spinner, True Turn with lightened back.3.5 oz. Ign battery 2000mah NIMH 4.3oz. Two 2000 mah RX batteries NIMH 5.4 oz. each. Power Expander 2.6 oz. Fiber Optic cut off switch. .6 oz. comes to 21.8 oz. for all.
02-11-2010, 08:24 PM
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skysfallin- Sorry I don't have the answer for you here, was just trying to help out. As Mark stated mine was a second generation Yak, maybe with the updates they weigh a little more, and I know that isn't the answer you want but as for me now I really don't know. My batteries weighed a couple oz. lighter than yours, no PE also had the lightened spinner with a wood TBM 22x8 prop. I used all the AW hardware and landing gear, don't really know the AUW but it flew awesome. Hope it all works out for you.
02-12-2010, 09:23 AM
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So of the 1.35 pounds of radio gear and spinner, Realistically I could get rid of 11.5 oz. and still make the plane fly. That would include the spinner, one rx battery and the power expander. I will see how the plane flies first than contemplate weight reduction. Than I will see how good the customer service dept is.
02-12-2010, 10:08 AM
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Skysfallin,
Does the 50cc Yak have a tuned pipe tunnel? On the 100cc Extra 300 their is a pipe tunnel that some guys are removing to save weight. Takes out about 6 oz on the 100cc Extra. They are saying the tunnel is not needed even if you are running pipes. I'm not sure but it is something to look at. As Mark Dennis says all those little items add up fast.
Ralph White
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Does the 50cc Yak have a tuned pipe tunnel? On the 100cc Extra 300 their is a pipe tunnel that some guys are removing to save weight. Takes out about 6 oz on the 100cc Extra. They are saying the tunnel is not needed even if you are running pipes. I'm not sure but it is something to look at. As Mark Dennis says all those little items add up fast.
Ralph White
Neoga, IL