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Old 12-16-2007, 02:41 AM
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I saw this aircraft this morning at the local airport. Wondering what it is.
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Old 12-16-2007, 02:49 AM
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Looks like a Long EZ. A composite aircraft developed by Burt Rutan. Also from http://www.velocityaircraft.com/airabout.html
Old 12-16-2007, 04:04 AM
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if so, wonder whats it doing in central India
Old 12-16-2007, 12:36 PM
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i would be wondering where the nose wheel is
Old 12-16-2007, 01:49 PM
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i would be wondering where the nose wheel is
You have to retract the nose wheel to get in and out.

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Old 12-17-2007, 12:33 AM
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It's a Vari EZ or a Long EZ, cant tell for certain which one. Also, with the three blade prop, it COULD be a Berkut, which is basically just a modified, higher performance version of the Long EZ. I always loved these aircraft, they are REAL performers if they're built right.
Old 12-17-2007, 12:35 AM
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Why would they retract the nose wheel like this? Even if its for repair, shouldnt it be supported correctly with something underneath the nose?
Old 12-17-2007, 09:46 AM
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I think the EZ aircraft have a tendency to tip back on the main gear without the pilot/passenger installed as ballast. It is standard operating procedure to rest on their nose and provisions are in order for resting in that state. To enter the aircraft,the pilot firsts lifts the nose and extends the nose gear. Being careful not to let the aircraft tip back onto the rudders or propeller, then hops in.
Old 12-17-2007, 02:40 PM
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Why would they retract the nose wheel like this? Even if its for repair, shouldnt it be supported correctly with something underneath the nose?
Standard operating procedure when nobody is in the cockpit.




Old 12-17-2007, 07:49 PM
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I and a friend built a Long-Eze, starting in 1981 and finished around 1989. The nose down parking served several purposes. Mainly, as mentioned is the tendency to fall back without pilot weight. Also it may help while tied down, resisting wind gusts. It is also retracted in the air for drag purposes. Rutan felt that a retractable nose gear was worth the effort as a drag penalty but the mains would add to much complexity and weight to the design and was therefore deemed not worth the additional effort. During building the bottom of the nose at the ground contact point is fitted with a metal and/or rubber shoe as a sort of sacrificial piece to take the scrapes when lowered. As a side note there have been a few cases of pilots either forgetting to lower the nose gear or the gear not locking completlely and as the aircraft slowed on rollout the nose gently dropped onto the shoe acting as a pretty effective brake with no damage to the airframe. Forgetting something. I'll edit later if my old feeble mind remembers.
Old 12-18-2007, 02:05 AM
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thanks for the explanation.
Old 12-18-2007, 06:33 AM
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Did John Denver own 1 of these?
Old 12-27-2007, 12:28 PM
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Did John Denver own 1 of these?
No he was "owned" by one of these!

http://www.airsafe.com/events/celebs/denver.htm
Old 12-27-2007, 12:56 PM
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I and a friend built a Long-Eze, starting in 1981 and finished around 1989. The nose down parking served several purposes. Mainly, as mentioned is the tendency to fall back without pilot weight. Also it may help while tied down, resisting wind gusts. It is also retracted in the air for drag purposes. Rutan felt that a retractable nose gear was worth the effort as a drag penalty but the mains would add to much complexity and weight to the design and was therefore deemed not worth the additional effort. During building the bottom of the nose at the ground contact point is fitted with a metal and/or rubber shoe as a sort of sacrificial piece to take the scrapes when lowered. As a side note there have been a few cases of pilots either forgetting to lower the nose gear or the gear not locking completlely and as the aircraft slowed on rollout the nose gently dropped onto the shoe acting as a pretty effective brake with no damage to the airframe. Forgetting something. I'll edit later if my old feeble mind remembers.

That exact thing happened a few years ago at my local airport. I witnessed a long eze make a beatufil landing on the mains - but I noticed the nose gear was not down. After the plane skidded to a stop, the pilot got out, extended the nose gear and took off. The plane (apart from some scuffed up paint) was undamaged. Apparently he didn't want to come in and get ridiculed for his mistake - I can't blame him.
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No he was "owned" by one of these!
thats not nice[]
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At Oshkosh during the airshow, we refer to these aircraft as "YARD DARTS"

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