FAA fine against drone photographer dismissed.
05-07-2014, 02:37 PM
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You are quite correct, it would be a good idea for journalists to use drones for observation and image capture. I am sure that they can't wait until the FAA completes the process of integrating drones into the NAS. But, it may take a while. Meanwhile in the interest of public safety, I think that they should wait for the real drones to become available. There are too many people that think the current toys on the market can be used as drones.
05-07-2014, 02:45 PM
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Now this one is pretty cool, but I guess John would call 911 if he saw it on his street.
Could this be the prototype new UPS truck to deliver drones that they lost?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...o-the-air.html
Could this be the prototype new UPS truck to deliver drones that they lost?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...o-the-air.html
05-07-2014, 07:39 PM
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I did not see any violations, did you?
Like I said before, I know that you think that you are a comedian. Well don't quit your day job.
05-07-2014, 08:23 PM
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This is first class. We have folks standing their ground. Folks needing professional help. The press wanting drones. The AMA wanting drones. Some wimpy policemen. Nut cases flying jets. I have read it all, but because I live in the South, we don't read so good. Reckon I missed a few things. Just remember, when seconds count the police is only minutes away.
I will throw in with the crankshaft. We need more rules and more police to enforce the rules. Maybe some drone police. Heck lets throw in a few more wimpy cops and judges.
I will throw in with the crankshaft. We need more rules and more police to enforce the rules. Maybe some drone police. Heck lets throw in a few more wimpy cops and judges.
05-08-2014, 09:43 AM
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Drone Strikes Downtown St Louis Buliding
Today's idiot...........................................
http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/05/...ouis-building/
The comments show the wide range of opinions...... I especially liked:
http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/05/...ouis-building/
The comments show the wide range of opinions...... I especially liked:
"KMOX Top story tonight, a toy is found. FAA is investigating. And in lighter news, You can keep your health insurance if you like your health insurance."
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05-08-2014, 11:38 AM
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05-08-2014, 02:58 PM
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Well, in a sense, all industry is related to the government. Commerce in this country is impossible without the support of government. Consider the infrastructure,as an example, that the government at all levels, not just federal, is responsible for. With no roads, no air traffic control,or no rails system then no travel is possible thus no interstate or intrastate commerce.
05-09-2014, 12:14 PM
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That is it! This drone thing has gone to far. My brother sent me a note that drones are used to check people fishing. Look, spying on the girl next door is one thing, but Fishing! The next thing you know people will be using drones to find the fish. Perhaps we do need drone police.
05-09-2014, 01:40 PM
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Ok guys, time to either get this thread back on topic or I'm going to close it down. And for those that are in this thread insulting others simply to see if they can get an reaction (they should know who they are) I would suggest that you stop what you are doing, because I am getting ready to show you what happens when you upset me. I've tried to remain calm and give you warnings hoping you could police yourselves, but unfortunately some think they are above my warnings and can simply do what they want. I can assure you that is not the case. I have already put one member on MS and I will continue doing it to others who seem to think they are above following the RCU Community Rules. It's purely up to you what happens next guys.
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05-09-2014, 02:04 PM
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Well, in a sense, all industry is related to the government. Commerce in this country is impossible without the support of government. Consider the infrastructure,as an example, that the government at all levels, not just federal, is responsible for. With no roads, no air traffic control,or no rails system then no travel is possible thus no interstate or intrastate commerce.
05-09-2014, 02:20 PM
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I hope my comment are not on the hit list. The truth is that drones are becoming a enforcement problem and are used in enforcement of laws. My point is simple. A judge found no fault in the use of drones, But it is sure thing the use of drones by anyone is going to be the subject of many studies and rules.This is the very beginning.
05-09-2014, 03:43 PM
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U.S. passenger jet nearly collided with drone in March: FAA
OK, totally on topic.
http://news.yahoo.com/u-passenger-je...1TpyYATY3QtDMD
NOTE: from the description this "drone" was a RC jet at 2,300 feet altitude? Are there any AMA club fields five miles from the approach to Talahassee? And BTW per the AMA interpretation of AC 91-57 you are only limited to 400 feet within three miles of an airport.
What about "see and avoid"???????????
http://news.yahoo.com/u-passenger-je...1TpyYATY3QtDMD
It was at 2,300 feet and about five miles from the airport when it encountered the remote controlled jet. The FAA investigated but could not identify the pilot of the drone.
What about "see and avoid"???????????
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05-09-2014, 03:55 PM
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OK, totally on topic.
http://news.yahoo.com/u-passenger-je...1TpyYATY3QtDMD
NOTE: from the description this "drone" was a RC jet at 2,300 feet altitude? Are there any AMA club fields five miles from the approach to Talahassee? And BTW per the AMA interpretation of AC 91-57 you are only limited to 400 feet within three miles of an airport.
What about "see and avoid"???????????
http://news.yahoo.com/u-passenger-je...1TpyYATY3QtDMD
NOTE: from the description this "drone" was a RC jet at 2,300 feet altitude? Are there any AMA club fields five miles from the approach to Talahassee? And BTW per the AMA interpretation of AC 91-57 you are only limited to 400 feet within three miles of an airport.
What about "see and avoid"???????????
People can argue all day long about these things, but one thing for sure, acts like this put our hobby in jeopardy.
05-09-2014, 04:02 PM
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Look at the comments to that article to see what the uninformed think.
05-09-2014, 05:25 PM
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Some pretty ugly and ill-informed comments there. But they are no surprise to me. Most people don't have a clue about what is really going on.
I think the pilot will have a tough time getting his turbine waiver if he keeps pulling stunts like that.
05-09-2014, 06:46 PM
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http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/09/travel...html?hpt=hp_t1
a video report of the fl incident, with a more detailed write up
oh yeah,
what makes you think he isn't already a waivered turbine pilot?
a video report of the fl incident, with a more detailed write up
oh yeah,
what makes you think he isn't already a waivered turbine pilot?
05-09-2014, 07:08 PM
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http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/09/travel...html?hpt=hp_t1
a video report of the fl incident, with a more detailed write up
oh yeah,
what makes you think he isn't already a waivered turbine pilot?
a video report of the fl incident, with a more detailed write up
oh yeah,
what makes you think he isn't already a waivered turbine pilot?
05-09-2014, 07:26 PM
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http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/09/travel...html?hpt=hp_t1
a video report of the fl incident, with a more detailed write up
a video report of the fl incident, with a more detailed write up
Jim Williams, the head of the FAA's Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS) office, discussed various potential perils during a presentation ..SNIP
Explaining why this event is significant, Williams referenced to the so-called Miracle on the Hudson from 2009, when US Airways Flight 1549 safely crash-landed in New York's Hudson River after striking at least one bird upon takeoff from LaGuardia Airport.
Airplane crash-lands into Hudson River
Such bird strikes are dangerous enough; a drone, even a small one, getting sucked into a jetliner's engine could be even worse, Williams said.
"Imagine a metal and plastic object -- especially with (a) big lithium battery -- going into a high-speed engine," he added. "The results could be catastrophic."
All these incidents speak to "why it is incredibly important for detect-and-avoid standards (for small unmanned aircraft) to be developed and right-of-way rules to be obeyed," Williams said. He added that such standards are in the works.
His agency reiterated this sentiment in its statement Friday.
"The FAA has the exclusive authority to regulate the airspace from the ground up, and a mandate to protect the safety of the American people in the air and on the ground," the agency said. "...Our challenge is to integrate unmanned aircraft into the busiest, most complex airspace in the world. Introduction of unmanned aircraft into America's airspace must take place incrementally and with the interest of safety first."
Explaining why this event is significant, Williams referenced to the so-called Miracle on the Hudson from 2009, when US Airways Flight 1549 safely crash-landed in New York's Hudson River after striking at least one bird upon takeoff from LaGuardia Airport.
Airplane crash-lands into Hudson River
Such bird strikes are dangerous enough; a drone, even a small one, getting sucked into a jetliner's engine could be even worse, Williams said.
"Imagine a metal and plastic object -- especially with (a) big lithium battery -- going into a high-speed engine," he added. "The results could be catastrophic."
All these incidents speak to "why it is incredibly important for detect-and-avoid standards (for small unmanned aircraft) to be developed and right-of-way rules to be obeyed," Williams said. He added that such standards are in the works.
His agency reiterated this sentiment in its statement Friday.
"The FAA has the exclusive authority to regulate the airspace from the ground up, and a mandate to protect the safety of the American people in the air and on the ground," the agency said. "...Our challenge is to integrate unmanned aircraft into the busiest, most complex airspace in the world. Introduction of unmanned aircraft into America's airspace must take place incrementally and with the interest of safety first."
I suspect AC 91-57 was INTENDED to cover more than just the area within a 5 mile radius of an airport, but I am just a lowly user.
As for the guy with the turbine waiver, it is difficult to take something away from a person if you don't know who it is.
05-09-2014, 07:39 PM
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I would think at that alttude he would have to be using some type of real time video and or auto pilot system. I think the FAA needs to quit stalling and release
rules for rc aircraft and require all rc craft with specific equip and abilities to register with the FAA .
rules for rc aircraft and require all rc craft with specific equip and abilities to register with the FAA .
05-09-2014, 10:28 PM
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Interesting thought. Would the FAA then become the governing body for RC aircraft and would there be any need for the AMA? Not sure I can pass a flight physical. Has anyone tried to fit a transponder in a 3 channel Super Cub?
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05-09-2014, 10:52 PM
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I have always maintained that the FAA should pretty much stay out of rc plane affairs unless they conflict with full scale aviation, But models over a certain size are with the capability to
be controlled from a longer distance than the normal modeler would fly IMO need to be under FAA control to some degree. For most modelers that would not affect their relationship
with the AMA.
be controlled from a longer distance than the normal modeler would fly IMO need to be under FAA control to some degree. For most modelers that would not affect their relationship
with the AMA.
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