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Old 05-07-2014, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cj_rumley View Post
AMA wants them to have their drones, too.

http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/ama...ts-about-suas/

You are quite correct, it would be a good idea for journalists to use drones for observation and image capture. I am sure that they can't wait until the FAA completes the process of integrating drones into the NAS. But, it may take a while. Meanwhile in the interest of public safety, I think that they should wait for the real drones to become available. There are too many people that think the current toys on the market can be used as drones.
Old 05-07-2014, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bradpaul View Post
Now this one is pretty cool, but I guess John would call 911 if he saw it on his street.

Could this be the prototype new UPS truck to deliver drones that they lost?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...o-the-air.html
Fascinating, sounds like they have invented the flying car we were promised so many years ago. I hope that their testing in such a safe location goes well. Maybe they will produce a safe product for both civil and military use.
Old 05-07-2014, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnShe View Post
Fascinating, sounds like they have invented the flying car we were promised so many years ago. I hope that their testing in such a safe location goes well. Maybe they will produce a safe product for both civil and military use.
But did you notice that video was shot with a regular "drone"??? LOL

Better hit the speed dial to 911...
Old 05-07-2014, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by littlecrankshaf View Post
But did you notice that video was shot with a regular "drone"??? LOL

Better hit the speed dial to 911...
Here are two lists of safety violations. Which ones were violated?



I did not see any violations, did you?

Like I said before, I know that you think that you are a comedian. Well don't quit your day job.
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnShe View Post
Well don't quit your day job.

You could certainly quit your day job LOL
Old 05-07-2014, 08:23 PM
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This is first class. We have folks standing their ground. Folks needing professional help. The press wanting drones. The AMA wanting drones. Some wimpy policemen. Nut cases flying jets. I have read it all, but because I live in the South, we don't read so good. Reckon I missed a few things. Just remember, when seconds count the police is only minutes away.
I will throw in with the crankshaft. We need more rules and more police to enforce the rules. Maybe some drone police. Heck lets throw in a few more wimpy cops and judges.
Old 05-08-2014, 09:43 AM
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Default Drone Strikes Downtown St Louis Buliding

Today's idiot...........................................

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/05/...ouis-building/

The comments show the wide range of opinions...... I especially liked:

"KMOX Top story tonight, a toy is found. FAA is investigating. And in lighter news, You can keep your health insurance if you like your health insurance."

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Old 05-08-2014, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by littlecrankshaf View Post
You could certainly quit your day job LOL
Already did. I am retired and living off of socialism, an IRA and an assortment of pensions. Now I have plenty of time to build and fly remote controlled model airplanes. And not laugh at your pathetic attempts at humor.
Old 05-08-2014, 01:01 PM
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Makes me wonder if you worked for the government or some industry dependent are related to the government somehow.
Old 05-08-2014, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by littlecrankshaf View Post
Makes me wonder if you worked for the government or some industry dependent are related to the government somehow.
Well, in a sense, all industry is related to the government. Commerce in this country is impossible without the support of government. Consider the infrastructure,as an example, that the government at all levels, not just federal, is responsible for. With no roads, no air traffic control,or no rails system then no travel is possible thus no interstate or intrastate commerce.
Old 05-09-2014, 12:14 PM
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That is it! This drone thing has gone to far. My brother sent me a note that drones are used to check people fishing. Look, spying on the girl next door is one thing, but Fishing! The next thing you know people will be using drones to find the fish. Perhaps we do need drone police.
Old 05-09-2014, 01:40 PM
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Ok guys, time to either get this thread back on topic or I'm going to close it down. And for those that are in this thread insulting others simply to see if they can get an reaction (they should know who they are) I would suggest that you stop what you are doing, because I am getting ready to show you what happens when you upset me. I've tried to remain calm and give you warnings hoping you could police yourselves, but unfortunately some think they are above my warnings and can simply do what they want. I can assure you that is not the case. I have already put one member on MS and I will continue doing it to others who seem to think they are above following the RCU Community Rules. It's purely up to you what happens next guys.



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Originally Posted by JohnShe View Post
Well, in a sense, all industry is related to the government. Commerce in this country is impossible without the support of government. Consider the infrastructure,as an example, that the government at all levels, not just federal, is responsible for. With no roads, no air traffic control,or no rails system then no travel is possible thus no interstate or intrastate commerce.
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Old 05-09-2014, 02:20 PM
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I hope my comment are not on the hit list. The truth is that drones are becoming a enforcement problem and are used in enforcement of laws. My point is simple. A judge found no fault in the use of drones, But it is sure thing the use of drones by anyone is going to be the subject of many studies and rules.This is the very beginning.
Old 05-09-2014, 03:43 PM
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Default U.S. passenger jet nearly collided with drone in March: FAA

OK, totally on topic.

http://news.yahoo.com/u-passenger-je...1TpyYATY3QtDMD

It was at 2,300 feet and about five miles from the airport when it encountered the remote controlled jet. The FAA investigated but could not identify the pilot of the drone.
NOTE: from the description this "drone" was a RC jet at 2,300 feet altitude? Are there any AMA club fields five miles from the approach to Talahassee? And BTW per the AMA interpretation of AC 91-57 you are only limited to 400 feet within three miles of an airport.

What about "see and avoid"???????????

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Old 05-09-2014, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bradpaul View Post
OK, totally on topic.

http://news.yahoo.com/u-passenger-je...1TpyYATY3QtDMD


NOTE: from the description this "drone" was a RC jet at 2,300 feet altitude? Are there any AMA club fields five miles from the approach to Talahassee? And BTW per the AMA interpretation of AC 91-57 you are only limited to 400 feet within three miles of an airport.

What about "see and avoid"???????????
"But the incident served to highlight the risk of remote-control aircraft, he said."
People can argue all day long about these things, but one thing for sure, acts like this put our hobby in jeopardy.
Old 05-09-2014, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bruceal View Post
"But the incident served to highlight the risk of remote-control aircraft, he said."
People can argue all day long about these things, but one thing for sure, acts like this put our hobby in jeopardy.
Exactly............... and if it was a RC jet then you are looking at an advanced RC pilot who SHOULD KNOW BETTER. The AMA needs to investigate and if the pilot was an AMA member take action.

Look at the comments to that article to see what the uninformed think.
Old 05-09-2014, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bradpaul View Post
Exactly............... and if it was a RC jet then you are looking at an advanced RC pilot who SHOULD KNOW BETTER. The AMA needs to investigate and if the pilot was an AMA member take action.

Look at the comments to that article to see what the uninformed think.

Some pretty ugly and ill-informed comments there. But they are no surprise to me. Most people don't have a clue about what is really going on.

I think the pilot will have a tough time getting his turbine waiver if he keeps pulling stunts like that.
Old 05-09-2014, 06:46 PM
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http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/09/travel...html?hpt=hp_t1

a video report of the fl incident, with a more detailed write up


oh yeah,
what makes you think he isn't already a waivered turbine pilot?
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Originally Posted by mongo View Post
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/09/travel...html?hpt=hp_t1

a video report of the fl incident, with a more detailed write up


oh yeah,
what makes you think he isn't already a waivered turbine pilot?
Well, will he be able to keep it?
Old 05-09-2014, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mongo View Post
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/09/travel...html?hpt=hp_t1

a video report of the fl incident, with a more detailed write up
Interesting reading..

Jim Williams, the head of the FAA's Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS) office, discussed various potential perils during a presentation ..SNIP

Explaining why this event is significant, Williams referenced to the so-called Miracle on the Hudson from 2009, when US Airways Flight 1549 safely crash-landed in New York's Hudson River after striking at least one bird upon takeoff from LaGuardia Airport.
Airplane crash-lands into Hudson River
Such bird strikes are dangerous enough; a drone, even a small one, getting sucked into a jetliner's engine could be even worse, Williams said.
"Imagine a metal and plastic object -- especially with (a) big lithium battery -- going into a high-speed engine," he added. "The results could be catastrophic."
All these incidents speak to "why it is incredibly important for detect-and-avoid standards (for small unmanned aircraft) to be developed and right-of-way rules to be obeyed," Williams said. He added that such standards are in the works.
His agency reiterated this sentiment in its statement Friday.
"The FAA has the exclusive authority to regulate the airspace from the ground up, and a mandate to protect the safety of the American people in the air and on the ground," the agency said. "...Our challenge is to integrate unmanned aircraft into the busiest, most complex airspace in the world. Introduction of unmanned aircraft into America's airspace must take place incrementally and with the interest of safety first."
The FAA is pretty sure they have the authority to regulate airspace from the ground up making the 400 foot discussion a fantasy, which is what I have contended from the beginning. I bet they have a whole slew of lawyers ready to prove their beliefs.

I suspect AC 91-57 was INTENDED to cover more than just the area within a 5 mile radius of an airport, but I am just a lowly user.

As for the guy with the turbine waiver, it is difficult to take something away from a person if you don't know who it is.
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I would think at that alttude he would have to be using some type of real time video and or auto pilot system. I think the FAA needs to quit stalling and release
rules for rc aircraft and require all rc craft with specific equip and abilities to register with the FAA .
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Originally Posted by ira d View Post
I would think at that alttude he would have to be using some type of real time video and or auto pilot system. I think the FAA needs to quit stalling and release
rules for rc aircraft and require all rc craft with specific equip and abilities to register with the FAA .

Interesting thought. Would the FAA then become the governing body for RC aircraft and would there be any need for the AMA? Not sure I can pass a flight physical. Has anyone tried to fit a transponder in a 3 channel Super Cub?


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The FAA would only need to be concerned for the most part with rc craft with certain capabilities.
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I have always maintained that the FAA should pretty much stay out of rc plane affairs unless they conflict with full scale aviation, But models over a certain size are with the capability to
be controlled from a longer distance than the normal modeler would fly IMO need to be under FAA control to some degree. For most modelers that would not affect their relationship
with the AMA.

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