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Old 12-28-2015, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by philakapd
I registered on December 22. $5.00 was taken from my account.
It's been six days. When do I get my $5.00 credit back?
Do I need to place a grievance with my credit card company and report the FAA?
This is gubment, give it 60 days at least.
Old 12-28-2015, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris P. Bacon
Thanks. I did read the registration process.

Located in the frequently asked questions:

Q2: Does it cost anything to register?A. Federal law requires owners to pay $5 to register their aircraft. However, registration is free for the first 30 days to encourage speedy registration of UAS. During the first 30 days, you must pay $5 with a credit card and a $5 credit will appear shortly afterwards.

The credit "will appear shortly afterwards." Apparently, 6 days would be too soon.


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Old 12-28-2015, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by philakapd
Thanks. I did read the registration process.

Located in the frequently asked questions:

Q2: Does it cost anything to register?A. Federal law requires owners to pay $5 to register their aircraft. However, registration is free for the first 30 days to encourage speedy registration of UAS. During the first 30 days, you must pay $5 with a credit card and a $5 credit will appear shortly afterwards.

The credit "will appear shortly afterwards." Apparently, 6 days would be too soon.


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Yup...they appear to be doing them in batches. I'm sure you'll get the money back
Old 12-28-2015, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by philakapd
Thanks. I did read the registration process.

Located in the frequently asked questions:

Q2: Does it cost anything to register?A. Federal law requires owners to pay $5 to register their aircraft. However, registration is free for the first 30 days to encourage speedy registration of UAS. During the first 30 days, you must pay $5 with a credit card and a $5 credit will appear shortly afterwards.

The credit "will appear shortly afterwards." Apparently, 6 days would be too soon.


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Of the past six days one day was a federal holiday and we had a weekend, not to mention Christmas Eve which make take as a vacation day. The probably process them in bulk one wee or so as well.
Old 12-28-2015, 11:30 AM
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Spent some time reading from pages 125 to current and do owe flight risk a answer.

I received a letter from one of the 10 FAA emails I have. This was talking about a company taking photos from 2 feet to 2000 ft in a town that has a active airport. Their site shows photos and videos.

the FAA still has the burden of proof (in a court of law) that a particular person, at this particular time, flew this particular UAS, in this particular hazardous manner. To get all of that from one video is difficult at best. We need to prove the person was at the controls and flying the craft is violation of regulations. Simply because a person states they flew a UAS at may not be, in and of itself, a violation.
Old 12-28-2015, 11:31 AM
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On AMA insurance- if you register or not, that will not affect the AMA insurance
Old 12-28-2015, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by porcia83
Yup...they appear to be doing them in batches. I'm sure you'll get the money back
http://tinyurl.com/zowrqrb
Old 12-28-2015, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by crash99
On AMA insurance- if you register or not, that will not affect the AMA insurance
I bet that changes.
Old 12-28-2015, 11:37 AM
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On Heli vs quad your correct. Many points of failure on a quad. A heli or quad loose a motor = Game over and it will tumble down with no control

A hex like the DJI 550 with a Naza controller will slowly spin down to the ground. But the down fall using a 550 is flight time. But a great platform for video and photograph.
Old 12-28-2015, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by crash99
Spent some time reading from pages 125 to current and do owe flight risk a answer.

I received a letter from one of the 10 FAA emails I have. This was talking about a company taking photos from 2 feet to 2000 ft in a town that has a active airport. Their site shows photos and videos.

the FAA still has the burden of proof (in a court of law) that a particular person, at this particular time, flew this particular UAS, in this particular hazardous manner. To get all of that from one video is difficult at best. We need to prove the person was at the controls and flying the craft is violation of regulations. Simply because a person states they flew a UAS at may not be, in and of itself, a violation.
Here is a thought...how hard do you think it is for a single person or even a small company to defend against charges from a federal agency..pick any one. I know I wouldn't want to test that theory out. The first step for them is to follow the law and don't brag or post videos of them doing stupid things right?
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Originally Posted by crash99
On Heli vs quad your correct. Many points of failure on a quad. A heli or quad loose a motor = Game over and it will tumble down with no control

A hex like the DJI 550 with a Naza controller will slowly spin down to the ground. But the down fall using a 550 is flight time. But a great platform for video and photograph.
Wonder what the rig had on it that almost hit the downhill skier..that sure didn't look to be spinning down slowly..
Old 12-28-2015, 11:42 AM
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The 336 is a law so would that not override the best rules the FAA is now stating? Not registering but everything else
Old 12-28-2015, 11:43 AM
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Some how people think you must fly under 400 ft. Where did that come from?
Old 12-28-2015, 11:48 AM
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I think the oct that crashed hard was a very bad deal. I can't tell you it had a DJI controller. Can you and if it was a V2 then there is the issue. V2 max size is a 550.
Old 12-28-2015, 11:50 AM
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It came from these threads which are filled with scary end of times doom and gloom as well as plain old wrong information.
Old 12-28-2015, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by crash99
I think the oct that crashed hard was a very bad deal. I can't tell you it had a DJI controller. Can you and if it was a V2 then there is the issue. V2 max size is a 550.
Dunno,.me no likely drones.... All I know is

.it fell hard!
Old 12-28-2015, 12:11 PM
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According to the news the company with the drone required that a switch was setup so that if the op lost control they could flip the switch and the drone would fall straight down...

knowing what we know about large quads that seems unrealistic with the return to home feature.
Old 12-28-2015, 12:25 PM
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You would think that as they discussed this kill feature switch...the light might have gone off in their head and they realised..oh ya..well throw a switch and have this drop like a rock. Amazing what they risked for a different view
Old 12-28-2015, 12:37 PM
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I actually think the video should work for us. What are the odds that a drone is hovering and chasing a person closely for pictures/spying and yet with a catastrophic failure still misses the object. I bet you would get horrible odds at Vegas on that, completely opposite of what the news is trying to feed everyone.
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Originally Posted by jonkoppisch
I actually think the video should work for us. What are the odds that a drone is hovering and chasing a person closely for pictures/spying and yet with a catastrophic failure still misses the object. I bet you would get horrible odds at Vegas on that, completely opposite of what the news is trying to feed everyone.
Ya...I think there is nothing positive in using that video. The only good thing is that nobody was hurt.
Old 12-28-2015, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by crash99
On Heli vs quad your correct. Many points of failure on a quad. A heli or quad loose a motor = Game over and it will tumble down with no control

A hex like the DJI 550 with a Naza controller will slowly spin down to the ground. But the down fall using a 550 is flight time. But a great platform for video and photograph.
Now now. Helis that lose a motor can auto-rotate to the ground safely. Get your facts straight.

(Loose laces lose races.)
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Nobody was hurt, exactly my point. What kind of odds would it take for someone to get hurt? Now let's compare that to hover boards lol
Old 12-28-2015, 02:05 PM
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Hover boards seem to have caused more injuries in the last week than incidences involving human injury at the model fields all year.
Old 12-28-2015, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TimJ
Hover boards seem to have caused more injuries in the last week than incidences involving human injury at the model fields all year.
We should first find a way to blame the AMA for those...then we need to call for a ban.

Can't lie...some of the wipe out videos are funny
Old 12-28-2015, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by crash99
Some how people think you must fly under 400 ft. Where did that come from?
That comes from the FAA requiring us to agree to fly below 400' in order to register.


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