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No doubt we would be having a blast, enjoying the weather and doing some flying. I've extended an invite to him if he ever gets to the great Northeast....you're still on the guest list Astro! Got 3 days in this past long weekend, very few great weather days left. Time to go indoors.
#2129
My local field has a airstrip for planes and a section for helis, but they don't allow "drones". You say it ceases to be a drone if I remove the camera and other gear? One of my helis has a NAZA-H (DJI) controller with GPS, when I put a camera on it, it's a drone. But because it has 2 rotors and not 4 or more it deemed acceptable. Why is that?
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#2130
How do we know why or what is acceptable at different clubs? IMO I see no reason to bar MR models. only the autonomous models should be banned, unless operated with the required commercial license. But then any club can allow or ban anything they want as it is a private club and free to associate with whomever or allow whatever they want. In that light they could ban anybody wearing clothes.
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#2131
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My local field has a airstrip for planes and a section for helis, but they don't allow "drones". You say it ceases to be a drone if I remove the camera and other gear? One of my helis has a NAZA-H (DJI) controller with GPS, when I put a camera on it, it's a drone. But because it has 2 rotors and not 4 or more it deemed acceptable. Why is that?
There might be a rule in place that bans ALL quads regardless of how it is equipped. This sort of "kill them all" type ban makes it easy for them to enforce with no need to discriminate between how the quads are equipped to be flown. Just Say No........
I quit one club years ago over a matter like this and never looked back.
#2132
How do we know why or what is acceptable at different clubs? IMO I see no reason to bar MR models. only the autonomous models should be banned, unless operated with the required commercial license. But then any club can allow or ban anything they want as it is a private club and free to associate with whomever or allow whatever they want. In that light they could ban anybody wearing clothes.
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Not banned by AMA or FAA, not an AMA or FAA issue. Some clubs allow models such as your DJI Phantom to fly at a club site and some don't. Your Q should be addressed to the rule makers at your club; no one here can read their minds and give you an answer that is more than a WAG. Nobody outside of your club (and local external forces like conditions made by the landlord and local ordinances) have any say in what can be flown there, so only you have anything to complain about.
#2137
I'm surprised more forum members weren't asked to participate, seems strange. I wonder if the AMA has responded. I know they've been pretty busy bringing on the new MultiGP SIG.
http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/med...nterest-group/
http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/med...nterest-group/
#2138
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I'm surprised more forum members weren't asked to participate, seems strange. I wonder if the AMA has responded. I know they've been pretty busy bringing on the new MultiGP SIG.
http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/med...nterest-group/
http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/med...nterest-group/
Good news on the new SIG though....I recall forecasting that coming around a while back. Currently at 4,000 members...potential members for the AMA.
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Forgive me if this was answered in the previous 80 pages, but how are these regulations even going to be enforced? Are we going to start having FAA examiners from the local FSDO sitting around the flying field on Saturday making sure everybody is registered? Are we going to start getting ramp checked by the FAA with our model airplanes just like full scale? I am afraid this simple registration is only the beginning.
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Multi-Rotors shouldn't be banned. Being accepting of them at the local field is the right thing to do. If they don't fly at an AMA field, they will be flying in your neighborhood looking through your windows, being shot at from the uneducated, getting people into needless problems.
Remember, the issue is the Multi-Rotor crowd that decides that flying anywhere they choose are the people who are causing us the problem.
If you want to ban their use, then prohibit them from flying outside of an AMA field. No AMA field, no Section 333 equals to you being prohibited to fly......................LOL.... opcorn:
Remember, the issue is the Multi-Rotor crowd that decides that flying anywhere they choose are the people who are causing us the problem.
If you want to ban their use, then prohibit them from flying outside of an AMA field. No AMA field, no Section 333 equals to you being prohibited to fly......................LOL.... opcorn:
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Forgive me if this was answered in the previous 80 pages, but how are these regulations even going to be enforced? Are we going to start having FAA examiners from the local FSDO sitting around the flying field on Saturday making sure everybody is registered? Are we going to start getting ramp checked by the FAA with our model airplanes just like full scale? I am afraid this simple registration is only the beginning.
#2142
Yup, the letter begs more questions every time I read it. At this point I wonder if the AMA even has it. No info on if and when it was sent, or how it was sent. The group doesn't seem to have a spokesperson, and didn't really ask for nor indicate a desire for dialog, they just released a statement of opinion. Wouldn't it have been a better idea to designate a spokesperson or at least a contact person for further discussion. Maybe take some time to get more than 14 signatures too. Some of them have spoken here about all of the people they have been in touch with through their business contacts, why not enlist them. How about starting a thread here or at RCG and asking for support. Better yet, are they not familiar with Change.org. Then again, maybe that was to much work, or perhaps they might have thought it wouldn't get the traction they hoped for. Who knows, it would be nice to have someone on that list here to explain those things. Maybe it was just easier to have someone who was "in" on the letter, and signed it..leak it here (in multiple threads). Some of these things are just basic grassroots organization issues 101.
Good news on the new SIG though....I recall forecasting that coming around a while back. Currently at 4,000 members...potential members for the AMA.
Good news on the new SIG though....I recall forecasting that coming around a while back. Currently at 4,000 members...potential members for the AMA.
Also, looking at a few (admittedly, I did not check all) of the corporate websites for those who signed the letter I did not see any reference to their efforts on their websites. I don't know if it's intentional realizing these views can be bad for business or just something they haven't gotten around to doing yet, although due to the importance of this time sensitive information I find that hard to believe. Seems like if support is what they're after, and we know there's strength in numbers, their corporate websites may be their best starting point to get the word out.
Lastly, considering none of the folks here were invited to sign the letter and none of the AMA SIGs signed the letter I can't help but notice some fixed-wing elitist overtones resonating from the letter.
#2143
Yup, the letter begs more questions every time I read it. At this point I wonder if the AMA even has it. No info on if and when it was sent, or how it was sent. The group doesn't seem to have a spokesperson, and didn't really ask for nor indicate a desire for dialog, they just released a statement of opinion. Wouldn't it have been a better idea to designate a spokesperson or at least a contact person for further discussion. Maybe take some time to get more than 14 signatures too. Some of them have spoken here about all of the people they have been in touch with through their business contacts, why not enlist them. How about starting a thread here or at RCG and asking for support. Better yet, are they not familiar with Change.org. Then again, maybe that was to much work, or perhaps they might have thought it wouldn't get the traction they hoped for. Who knows, it would be nice to have someone on that list here to explain those things. Maybe it was just easier to have someone who was "in" on the letter, and signed it..leak it here (in multiple threads). Some of these things are just basic grassroots organization issues 101.
Good news on the new SIG though....I recall forecasting that coming around a while back. Currently at 4,000 members...potential members for the AMA.
Good news on the new SIG though....I recall forecasting that coming around a while back. Currently at 4,000 members...potential members for the AMA.
I'm surprised the new incoming district VIII VP, Lawrence Harville, wasn't included in the distribution as the election results were published prior to the date on the letter. He seems like he would champion their efforts.
Also, looking at a few (admittedly, I did not check all) of the corporate websites for those who signed the letter I did not see any reference to their efforts on their websites. I don't know if it's intentional realizing these views can be bad for business or just something they haven't gotten around to doing yet, although due to the importance of this time sensitive information I find that hard to believe. Seems like if support is what they're after, and we know there's strength in numbers, their corporate websites may be their best starting point to get the word out.
Lastly, considering none of the folks here were invited to sign the letter and none of the AMA SIGs signed the letter I can't help but notice some fixed-wing elitist overtones resonating from the letter.
Also, looking at a few (admittedly, I did not check all) of the corporate websites for those who signed the letter I did not see any reference to their efforts on their websites. I don't know if it's intentional realizing these views can be bad for business or just something they haven't gotten around to doing yet, although due to the importance of this time sensitive information I find that hard to believe. Seems like if support is what they're after, and we know there's strength in numbers, their corporate websites may be their best starting point to get the word out.
Lastly, considering none of the folks here were invited to sign the letter and none of the AMA SIGs signed the letter I can't help but notice some fixed-wing elitist overtones resonating from the letter.
Mike
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It's like that scene in 2001 Space Odyssey when the Black Monolith first appeared...!
Ooook...ooook..oooook...eeeek...eeeeek..eeeeek....
SCREEEEEEECH...!!!
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#2145
Yes but with a car the driver is in the CAR! Not so with a drone! So they will confiscate the drone but will have no idea who flew it.
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#2148
"The only credential we require is an Academy of Model Aeronautics Membership (AMA) to ensure you and your fellow pilots have a mutual respect for safety. For more information on how to obtain an Academy of Model Aeronautics Membership, click HERE."
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