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#276
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Last year I saw a story where a man with a giant scale Extra actually harassed a helicopter working in Illinois. I did an internet search for the story but could not find it today. I originally received it in a fax from an aviation group. I doubt I still have it but if I come across it I will scan it and post it.
#277
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Well, Houndog cited one. The midair between the biplane and the RC model is another.
And it was the HOT Dog "Eddy Rickerbacker" type FOOL in the Bi Plane shown off his BIG TOY. High Speed Smoke on Passes are not approaches to Land so the Full Scale Pilot is Lucky his Hot Dogg'n didn't get him self killed along with a number of spectators.
Count Down timer Till FAA Mandatory Registration:
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And it was the HOT Dog "Eddy Rickerbacker" type FOOL in the Bi Plane shown off his BIG TOY. High Speed Smoke on Passes are not approaches to Land so the Full Scale Pilot is Lucky his Hot Dogg'n didn't get him self killed along with a number of spectators.
Count Down timer Till FAA Mandatory Registration:
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown...ion&font=serif

#278

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Last year I saw a story where a man with a giant scale Extra actually harassed a helicopter working in Illinois. I did an internet search for the story but could not find it today. I originally received it in a fax from an aviation group. I doubt I still have it but if I come across it I will scan it and post it.
#279

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Just a reminder wouldn't to see any R/C TOY flyer get in trouble over a 10 digit Alphanumeric Number Got Yours.
Now here's another reminder ....
Count Down timer Till FAA Mandatory Registration:
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown...ion&font=serif
Now here's another reminder ....
Count Down timer Till FAA Mandatory Registration:
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown...ion&font=serif
#280

Just a reminder wouldn't to see any R/C TOY flyer get in trouble over a 10 digit Alphanumeric Number Got Yours.
Now here's another reminder ....
Count Down timer Till FAA Mandatory Registration:
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown...ion&font=serif
Now here's another reminder ....
Count Down timer Till FAA Mandatory Registration:
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown...ion&font=serif
#282

"We counted 158 incidents in which a drone came within 200 feet or less of a manned aircraft (two-thirds of all Close Encounters in which a concrete drone-to-aircraft proximity is given), 51 incidents in which the proximity was 50 feet or less, and 28 incidents in which a pilot maneuvered to avoid a collision with a drone."
http://dronecenter.bard.edu/drone-si...se-encounters/
#283

With the majority of manned aircraft t 500'AGL and above (police, fire, EMT/LifeFlite, and news helicopters; agricultural aircraft, and military) all routinely operate at 500' or so... I really think the most reliable way to consistently separate manned and unmanned is altitude. I'm of the belief it's not if there is a 400' AGL restriction nationwide for all non-commercial sUAS/UAS, but rather when.
#284



Last year I saw a story where a man with a giant scale Extra actually harassed a helicopter working in Illinois. I did an internet search for the story but could not find it today. I originally received it in a fax from an aviation group. I doubt I still have it but if I come across it I will scan it and post it.
Better yet take his AMA card.
And yet I'm sure that doesn't appear anywhere in the "safety data" that AMA is presenting to the FAA to prove we're safe. It's an issue of credibility. If FAA knows AMA doesn't track and report on that type of action by members, why should they view AMA data as credible?
#285

With the majority of manned aircraft t 500'AGL and above (police, fire, EMT/LifeFlite, and news helicopters; agricultural aircraft, and military) all routinely operate at 500' or so... I really think the most reliable way to consistently separate manned and unmanned is altitude. I'm of the belief it's not if there is a 400' AGL restriction nationwide for all non-commercial sUAS/UAS, but rather when.
I fly gliders, IMAC and pattern and not once have I heard or witnessed a situation where they conflicted with manned aircraft. And certainly not one single accident caused by flying over 400 feet.
It appears you are willing to ignore empirical data while trying to satisfy your "gut" feeling on what should be done.
BTW - I have found a new candidate for my ignore list. Looking back over 40 pages of franklin_m's post I have not seen a single one related to actually owning or flying model aircraft. It appears his sole purpose in these forums is to troll the modelers. Buh-Bye!!!
Last edited by Silent-AV8R; 01-09-2016 at 09:33 AM.
#286

Can you explain to us why this has not been an issue for the past 8 decades, but suddenly in your mind it should be done??
I fly gliders, IMAC and pattern and not once have I heard or witnessed a situation where they conflicted with manned aircraft. And certainly not one single accident caused by flying over 400 feet.
It appears you are willing to ignore empirical data while trying to satisfy your "gut" feeling on what should be done.
BTW - I have found a new candidate for my ignore list. Looking back over 40 pages of franklin_m's post I have not seen a single one related to actually owning or flying model aircraft. It appears his sole purpose in these forums is to troll the modelers. Buh-Bye!!!
I fly gliders, IMAC and pattern and not once have I heard or witnessed a situation where they conflicted with manned aircraft. And certainly not one single accident caused by flying over 400 feet.
It appears you are willing to ignore empirical data while trying to satisfy your "gut" feeling on what should be done.
BTW - I have found a new candidate for my ignore list. Looking back over 40 pages of franklin_m's post I have not seen a single one related to actually owning or flying model aircraft. It appears his sole purpose in these forums is to troll the modelers. Buh-Bye!!!
#287

http://dronecenter.bard.edu/drone-si...se-encounters/
Oh, as for flying... and Audacity P6, Raptor 50, Trex500, Trex450, Blade 450x, Blade 300x, Sig Somethin' Extra, Great Planes Skybolt, Sailplane built from plans, SureShark built from plans, SureShark XV built from short kit, Sig Wonder, .40CL, .25CL, kitbashed .40 trainer on floats, Golden Age 60 from plans/short kit, Adrenaline Rush (22in ws, 65mph+ pylon racer), quickwing 12mm w/ brushless 5400kv inrunner, Kyosho AutoKite, and others I've fogotten their names.
In fact, but two batteries through one of my 450's this morning.
#288

As you think of those encounters, keep in mind the general public's tolerance for drones hitting airplanes = about zero.
#289

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A true requirement is something like stall speed. For example, aircraft are typically limited to less than 250KIAS below 10,000 feet. Some, but not all, types of TACAIR have a waiver for 300KIAS in formation when below 10,000 feet. This is done to maintain acceptable stall margin for the aircraft flying wing.

(In case some may be wondering why the two numbers, a brief systems 'lecture': the "Combined" hydraulic system, who's pump was driven from the left engine, was the "big ticket" system, powering not just flight controls but other things like landing gear retraction/extension, and therefore placed a higher load/drag on the left engine than the "Flight" hydraulic system placed on the right. Thus, more KIAS were required to spin the left engine up to min re-light rpm for a chance at a windmill start. Class dismissed. Open-book exam tomorrow

Last edited by VF84sluggo; 01-09-2016 at 10:19 AM.
#290

Actually, there are three: High, Low, and Flat...depending upon the weather.
We were told the TACAIR waiver was for the windmill airstart requirements. For the F-14, 310 KIAS comes to mind...yep, just checked my NATOPS, and it is 310 for the left (295 for the right)...man, not bad recall for an old guy who's not flown the jet since 1987, surprised even myself
(In case some may be wondering why the two numbers, a brief systems 'lecture': the "Combined" hydraulic system, who's pump was driven from the left engine, was the "big ticket" system, powering not just flight controls but other things like landing gear retraction/extension, and therefore placed a higher load/drag on the left engine than the "Flight" hydraulic system placed on the right. Thus, more KIAS were required to spin the left engine up to min re-light rpm for a chance at a windmill start. Class dismissed. Open-book exam tomorrow
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We were told the TACAIR waiver was for the windmill airstart requirements. For the F-14, 310 KIAS comes to mind...yep, just checked my NATOPS, and it is 310 for the left (295 for the right)...man, not bad recall for an old guy who's not flown the jet since 1987, surprised even myself

(In case some may be wondering why the two numbers, a brief systems 'lecture': the "Combined" hydraulic system, who's pump was driven from the left engine, was the "big ticket" system, powering not just flight controls but other things like landing gear retraction/extension, and therefore placed a higher load/drag on the left engine than the "Flight" hydraulic system placed on the right. Thus, more KIAS were required to spin the left engine up to min re-light rpm for a chance at a windmill start. Class dismissed. Open-book exam tomorrow

#291
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And yet I'm sure that doesn't appear anywhere in the "safety data" that AMA is presenting to the FAA to prove we're safe. It's an issue of credibility. If FAA knows AMA doesn't track and report on that type of action by members, why should they view AMA data as credible?
#293

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...eople-die.html
Another perspective....he takes shots at the FAA and the AMA.
Another perspective....he takes shots at the FAA and the AMA.

#294

Fair enough. I extrapolated based on comment that it was an IMAC aircraft and that the particular field has since held some events elsewhere. Both led me to conclude it as AMA member.
#295

It'll be interesting how AMA tries to "spin" the 19 February announcement that despite their chest thumping that everyone needs to register.
#297

Thanks! My personal limit is feeling in the tips of my fingers...especially important with helis. Have some other stuff to do today, and it's misty and damp out now, but this morning was able to sneak out a couple flights.
#298

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Yeah! I remember when I lived up North and flew r/c, until late fall, early winter and then again in late winter, prior to spring; leaving the car running with the heater on high to warm my hands in between flights. Glad I don't do that anymore!! LOL>>> Summer time here though, we use a wet rag around the neck to stay cool, and wipe the sweat off.
Last edited by RCFlyerDan; 01-09-2016 at 01:42 PM.
#299

In my last 50 posts , at least 5 were helping actual hobbyists with actual information that is helpful to getting their models to fly .
Each and every one of your posts are here in the AMA forum , arguing some viewpoint or other . Not one post ever about an actual model aircraft .
Does this mean my word matters more than yours , using your all important post history yardstick ?
I think post history really should be put to rest as to whose point matters more . Sometimes I agree with Franklin . Sometimes I disagree with him . Just as , at times , I've both agreed and disagreed with you . Lets keep it to the pure facts of issues , and not go down the ugly path of trying to tear down positions by tearing down people with attacks on things like post history .
#300

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...eople-die.html
Another perspective....he takes shots at the FAA and the AMA.
Another perspective....he takes shots at the FAA and the AMA.
