The Happy AMA Thread , What do YOU do with them ?
10-04-2020, 02:24 PM
#403
Even AMA says the test is coming (note 1).
Read the words of the law. It doesn't say the FAA must recognize anything, just says the FAA has to establish "criteria and process" (note 2).
Note 1: https://amablog.modelaircraft.org/am...ationtimeline/
Note 2: 49 USC 44809(i) "...the Administrator shall publish an advisory circular within 180 days of the date of enactment of this section that identifies the criteria and process required for recognition of community-based organizations (emphasis added)."
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?...edition=prelim
10-05-2020, 07:49 AM
#404
And I always liked the nickname of "Casket" racer, although my friend always said it actually was a really good natured airplane.
R_Strowe
10-12-2020, 05:45 AM
#406
Has anyone considered contacting the FAA? Probably the Indy FSDO would be a good place to start.
I'm also going to be driving down to company headquarters, and could easily go by Muncie. I'll be happy to stop in and see what I can learn about the subject.
R_Strowe
10-12-2020, 01:56 PM
#410
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The man is a contest director. He applied for a sanction for the event and received it from the AMA. The event was held, from all aspects it was a success and winners were crowned. The event is over and now you have an inquiry from some one who was not a competitor, volunteer someone with no connection to the event asking questions. For what reason to cast some sort of shadow on his event.
Don't hold your breath expecting an answer LOL. Talk to the hand LOL
The man is a contest director. He applied for a sanction for the event and received it from the AMA. The event was held, from all aspects it was a success and winners were crowned. The event is over and now you have an inquiry from some one who was not a competitor, volunteer someone with no connection to the event asking questions. For what reason to cast some sort of shadow on his event.
Don't hold your breath expecting an answer LOL. Talk to the hand LOL
10-12-2020, 02:13 PM
#411
Add to that his son is on the WC team so he is coaching, maintaining equipment, helping organize the teams fund raisers and organizing team Zoom meetings. Quite the busy guy. That being said, does he have any obligation to answer the question in the first place?
10-12-2020, 04:01 PM
#412
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The man is a contest director. He applied for a sanction for the event and received it from the AMA. The event was held, from all aspects it was a success and winners were crowned. The event is over and now you have an inquiry from some one who was not a competitor, volunteer someone with no connection to the event asking questions. For what reason to cast some sort of shadow on his event.
Don't hold your breath expecting an answer LOL. Talk to the hand LOL
The man is a contest director. He applied for a sanction for the event and received it from the AMA. The event was held, from all aspects it was a success and winners were crowned. The event is over and now you have an inquiry from some one who was not a competitor, volunteer someone with no connection to the event asking questions. For what reason to cast some sort of shadow on his event.
Don't hold your breath expecting an answer LOL. Talk to the hand LOL
Takes all but ten seconds.
Unless.........
I love all of the responses (excuses) for not giving a simple answer! It's priceless. Three of you have now gone out of your way to guess at and give excuses for why the CD hasn't been able to send an e-mail that would take literally a couple of seconds to do.
Astro
10-12-2020, 04:05 PM
#413
Add to that his son is on the WC team so he is coaching, maintaining equipment, helping organize the teams fund raisers and organizing team Zoom meetings. Quite the busy guy. That being said, does he have any obligation to answer the question in the first place?
Astro
10-12-2020, 05:18 PM
#417
In fact I wouldn't be surprised if my request ended up in his spam box. If course I'm already satisfied they had the appropriate paperwork approved, because it's required to conduct the event, and doing so is part of the process. Obviously not everyone understands the process.
R_Strowe
R_Strowe
10-12-2020, 05:26 PM
#418
In fact I wouldn't be surprised if my request ended up in his spam box. If course I'm already satisfied they had the appropriate paperwork approved, because it's required to conduct the event, and doing so is part of the process. Obviously not everyone understands the process.
R_Strowe
R_Strowe
Exactly, unfortunately there are some that will accept nothing less then a notarized copy of the actual waiver. Notice how often the AMA has been mentioned in this particular topic. This wasn't even an AMA event. But hey we have some of RCU's most observant people right here.
10-12-2020, 06:50 PM
#419
Unless you consider, "Of course they had a waiver, it's required" as proof.
That is paramount to saying that every driver has a drivers' license because they are required.
Astro
10-12-2020, 07:24 PM
#421
I think it would be easy to do, as MOST modelers I know do not think twice about breaking the 400' law, as they find it as asinine as I do.
Astro
10-12-2020, 07:31 PM
#422
Where it concerns an FAA waiver for altitude deviation? Yes, and I will explain: These regs are all new and are unique to the US. I wouldn't be surprised if the FAI honestly overlooked those flight restrictions due to them being relatively new. Simple as that.
I think it would be easy to do, as MOST modelers I know do not think twice about breaking the 400' law, as they find it as asinine as I do.
Astro
I think it would be easy to do, as MOST modelers I know do not think twice about breaking the 400' law, as they find it as asinine as I do.
Astro
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Last edited by speedracerntrixie; 10-12-2020 at 07:39 PM.
10-12-2020, 08:29 PM
#423
Oviously you have no FACTS to back that up do you? Oh and the last F3A WC was held in Italy last year. Italy has altitude restrictions as well, FAI is well aware that waivers are required in most countries.
https://www.dronezine.it/english/
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Keep trying, Speedy, keep trying......maybe some day you will be capable of having a civil discussion.
Astro
10-12-2020, 10:35 PM
#424
1) Muncie(read AMA) is hosting the event
2) FAI is a guest that has accepted the AMA's offer of using the site
3) The AMA should be the one to contact the FAA and get the waiver since they are both the site owner and the hosting organization
4) Since the FAI is a guest, they should expect that everything is ready to go when they arrive, which includes the altitude waiver that has to be obtained from the FAA
5) Since the AMA has a known history of misrepresenting information when it comes to it's dealings with the FAA, the FAI should feel it needs to, in fact, verify that the legal documentation is taken care of REGARDLESS of what the AMA says
Now as far as a driver's license:
1) It is required that ANYONE operating a vehicle on a public road has one, along with liability insurance covering the vehicle being driven
2) It is up to the driver to obtain a valid license from the issuing organization, that being the appropriate state Department of Licensing
3) It is required that the driver has the license with them any time that person is in control of a vehicle
4) If pulled over for violating traffic laws, by not having said license with the driver operating the vehicle, the license can be suspended and the offending driver fined by a court judge. IF the driver/operator had never obtained a license prior to being pulled over for a violation, they may be denied the ability to obtain a license for a designated period of time by the court.
So, when you compare the two, they're very much similar situation. You drive a car, you have to have your license, registration and proof of liability insurance with you. You host an event, you have to have your legal documentation taken care of and available if it's requested by any LEO or FAA official. I'm still trying to figure out why this is so hard to understand, unless you don't want to understand or, what's more likely, be willing to believe it.
Last edited by Hydro Junkie; 10-12-2020 at 10:43 PM.
10-13-2020, 03:25 AM
#425
Exactly, unfortunately there are some that will accept nothing less then a notarized copy of the actual waiver. Notice how often the AMA has been mentioned in this particular topic. This wasn't even an AMA event. But hey we have some of RCU's most observant people right here.
not an AMA event, so i guess that there actually was no AMA sanction issued?
wow, how things change in these stories.