FAA administrative lapse causes US Capitol evacuation
04-21-2022, 12:54 PM
#1
FAA administrative lapse causes US Capitol evacuation
So, according to the Capitol police, the FAA failed to notify them that a plane with a team of skydivers was approved to fly past the Capitol, on their way to be dropped at a Washington Nationals baseball game. The Capitol was evacuated in a near panic as the "menacing" aircraft passed. While this was going on it gave me this one thought; much is said here about the AMA not always getting it right, and while that's true, it's also true that the FAA itself isn't 100% perfect either, and thank God none of OUR mistakes have ever made front page news for two days in a row like this story has.....
Methinks someone in the FAA chain of command has some 'Splainin to do, , , like Ricky always used to say to Lucy
Methinks someone in the FAA chain of command has some 'Splainin to do, , , like Ricky always used to say to Lucy
04-21-2022, 07:03 PM
#3
And where did anyone say the FAA was plotting against the AMA?
What WAS SAID is "much is said here about the AMA not always getting it right, and while that's true, it's also true that the FAA itself isn't 100% perfect either". To me, that reads as "We're all human and we all make mistakes". The complaints we've had about the AMA leadership are that:
What WAS SAID is "much is said here about the AMA not always getting it right, and while that's true, it's also true that the FAA itself isn't 100% perfect either". To me, that reads as "We're all human and we all make mistakes". The complaints we've had about the AMA leadership are that:
- they don't require members to follow rules,
- they don't let the members know what's going on or, if they do, it's not in a timely manner
- they don't listen to anything they are said or suggested by the members.
Last edited by Hydro Junkie; 04-21-2022 at 07:27 PM.
04-22-2022, 03:33 AM
#4
The Commander-in-Chief of all United States military forces was not informed by HIS subordinates that one of HIS planes was flying by the Capital and it's the fault of the FAA? Or maybe he was asleep during the briefing?
04-22-2022, 03:55 AM
#5
And where did anyone say the FAA was plotting against the AMA?
What WAS SAID is "much is said here about the AMA not always getting it right, and while that's true, it's also true that the FAA itself isn't 100% perfect either". To me, that reads as "We're all human and we all make mistakes". The complaints we've had about the AMA leadership are that:
What WAS SAID is "much is said here about the AMA not always getting it right, and while that's true, it's also true that the FAA itself isn't 100% perfect either". To me, that reads as "We're all human and we all make mistakes". The complaints we've had about the AMA leadership are that:
- they don't require members to follow rules,
- they don't let the members know what's going on or, if they do, it's not in a timely manner
- they don't listen to anything they are said or suggested by the members.
Franklin multiple times when it’s mentioned that the FAA hasn’t interfered with any events known to be flown over 400’ has claimed “ the FAA is giving the AMA enough rope “.
04-22-2022, 04:43 AM
#6
The initial post didn't include any statements from Franklin so, as I see it, unless he decides to comment in this thread, he's a non-factor in this thread. That said, you may have drawn him into it by bringing him up
04-22-2022, 05:28 AM
#7
Weak Hydro, Very weak. We both know he has said that multiple times which would indicate he is of the opinion that some “ plotting “ is taking place. Now do I think the FAA is plotting against the AMA? Absolutely not. My initial post in this thread was intended as a little levity.
However since we are talking about the failings of the FAA, you may or may not be aware that VP Harris flew into PDX yesterday. On Wednesday I received a Notam/TFR from the AMA with regards to the no fly date, time and distance of the no fly zone. Nothing from the FAA. Since UAS pilots aren’t required to be CBO members how many did not know about the TFR and flew yesterday? Of course impossible to say but the potential was there. Why didn’t the FAA whom has all our information not send out the TFR?
04-22-2022, 05:42 AM
#8
Air Force One is also in Seattle and Everett today. Only thing I've heard was on the local news, that being through the wife since I was at work. For all I know, I might not even be able to get to work today, depending on where the senile idiot is and how much area is blocked off because of him
04-22-2022, 06:29 AM
#10
If the FAA chose to enforce the law, nobody here would say they were, "plotting" against the AMA. Nobody has claimed that by choosing NOT to enforce the law, the FAA is plotting against the AMA. In fact, to my knowledge, nobody here has claimed that the FAA is plotting against the AMA ever.
Astro
04-22-2022, 07:47 AM
#12
Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie
One could easily take his statement as he feels the FAA is “ plotting “.
I doubt anybody else here took it that way. I certainly didn't.
Astro
04-22-2022, 11:19 AM
#14
You do realize how hypocritical this statement is, right?
Why would I? Why do I care? Why would you even point that out?
Astro
Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie
I see neither you nor Hydro are addressing the fact that the Portland and Seattle TFR came from the AMA and not the FAA.
Astro
04-22-2022, 12:56 PM
#17
If this was your thread I would respect that and leave it alone. Since it’s not your thread how about I just tell you GO POUND SAND!
Since the thread topic is about the FAA’s failure to inform the capital of an approved flight plan then the FAA’s failure to notify every registered UAS pilot of a TFR in their area certainly is relatable.
Since the thread topic is about the FAA’s failure to inform the capital of an approved flight plan then the FAA’s failure to notify every registered UAS pilot of a TFR in their area certainly is relatable.
04-22-2022, 01:03 PM
#18
If this was your thread I would respect that and leave it alone. Since it’s not your thread how about I just tell you GO POUND SAND!
Since the thread topic is about the FAA’s failure to inform the capital of an approved flight plan then the FAA’s failure to notify every registered UAS pilot of a TFR in their area certainly is relatable.
Since the thread topic is about the FAA’s failure to inform the capital of an approved flight plan then the FAA’s failure to notify every registered UAS pilot of a TFR in their area certainly is relatable.
Astro
04-22-2022, 01:20 PM
#19
Get a grip, just because you make a baseless claim, which you have done several times in this thread does not make it so. Example, claiming what other people think/conclude concerning a statement made by Franklin. Fact most threads I participate in are reasonably civil until you show up and start shoveling your BS.
04-22-2022, 01:59 PM
#21
Get a grip, just because you make a baseless claim, which you have done several times in this thread does not make it so. Example, claiming what other people think/conclude concerning a statement made by Franklin. Fact most threads I participate in are reasonably civil until you show up and start shoveling your BS.
Do you even realize how hypocritical your statement is about me claiming what other people think concerning statements that have been made? You do it all the time! You have already done it in this thread! Take a look in the mirror.
I've been completely civil with you through this entire conversation. Yes, I've disagreed and posed a different opinion/perspective/point of view, but you view that as an attack and go on the offensive with your mud-slinging. Take a long, hard look in the mirror.
Oh, BTW, speaking of baseless claims, care to explain what I have said that constitutes "shoveling BS"?
Astro
04-22-2022, 04:30 PM
#25
Not true. The ONLY threads that you are involved in that remain civil are the ones where nobody disagrees with you. FACT. And I'm not only talking about threads where I am involved. There are multitudes of examples on other forums where your threads are derailed simply because others disagree with you.
Astro
Astro