franklin_m

As a member of the AMA EC, are you proud of the banning on RCG? Are you proud of the AMA members piling on to get other AMA members banned? Are you proud that RCG, a site associated with AMA due to its owner being an AMA CD, banning other AMA members for what are really manufactured reasons?

Is AMA that fragile that it needs Jason Cole banning anyone that dares to cross EXF4BGUY or other AMA royalty on RCG?

ECHO24

Thanks. I was thinking the other account in question was RCG.

ECHO24

And FPVers. In 2015 I had an exchange with Matt Gunn over illegal (solo) FPV. Matt fessed up but said he only did it a little. FPV outlaw-lite. Nearly everyone in RCG and AMA management is tainted by FPV. One fad back then defending FPV was citing the lack of regulation of ultralights. All in the dust bin now. Many of those RCG members/FPVers who helped AMA flush 336 down the toilet are still around. Now it's, "We will continue to fly like we always have" - Sure, right after that FAA approval.

ECHO24

Franklin, you were on RCG Model Aircraft Advocacy forum back then. I'm not sure if the FPV lunatics had yet added "and Drone" to the forum title. Remember the 2-pane photo I posted with an ultralight opposite a drone with the caption "Death Star" for the model aircraft hobby?

ECHO24

Older threads default to the current name so it's hard to decipher exactly when "and Drone" was added to the RCG Model Aircraft Advocacy forum. But searching turns up some gems. This from March 2012, AMA IN ACTION, shows Rich Hanson giving the FU to the FAA right after Section 336 was passed, "Your questions answered - The 400 foot limit for model aircraft", sub-title "worrisome comment about a 400 foot limit" from John W. McGraw, Deputy Director, FAA Flight Standards Office: https://amablog.modelaircraft.org/am...odel-aircraft/

The McGraw interview, TL;DR, the FAA did not consider drones to be model aircraft. The idiot Rich Hanson is who decided otherwise and threw away the sweet deal of Section 336 over FPV.

RCGroups, August 2013: https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...rposes/page192
Starts at page 192. Pretty long but a good read for anyone interested in the AMA debacle, comments from B. Shulman, and a lot of suspended accounts!

RCGoups, June 2014, "FAA says all (goggles) FPV is illegal": https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...FPV-is-illegal

The dope running AMA in 2014 with his armchair lawyering defending FPV before his reality check and the FAA reminding him who is actually in charge.

You Tube

Found in this RCGroups thread, December, 2010:https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...-Concerned-%29

Titled " FAA vs Model Aviation (Should We Be Concerned?)". Should be the other way around. AMA lost.

ECHO24

Thread number 2 has some great advice for online discussions (xfc3dcd):

"The problem with people like David and Bimbo is they lack that filter most people have that asks questions like -

Am I being redundant? .................................................. .........Obviously
Does anyone besides me care about my thoughts? ..................... NA
Do my comments add value to the conversation? ........................NA
Is my input helping another and pushing intellectual progress? .....Push your own intellectual baby stroller.

astrohog

My Feedback: (1)

astrohog

My Feedback: (1)

HAPPY THANKSGIVING to all the odd old men that frequent this forum! Yes, even the folks that I disagree with, as well as the trolls! Thanks know no bounds and the fact that we are all able to participate in this hobby is a sign that we all have more than we need.

CHEERS!

Astro

ECHO24

Who doesn't love a cuddly trog posting a syrupy-sweet valentine right after a personal insult. Someone beat you to it:

https://www.teetweets.com/products/d...ers-and-losers

Cheers indeed.

.

aymodeler

My Feedback: (3)

Well said Astro! It has been said before (even on got mentioned earlier on this thread) but it is easy to forget just how much we all actually have in common. Today is a good day to to remember that.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

ECHO24

Not well said at all - re. his post immediately before 'Dancing with Myself' then the syrupy drivel, in case you missed the reference. These off-handed insults are a holiday tradition for this guy. The little man so quick to tag others with psychological disorders needs a long look in the mirror.

Just another virtue signaling fraud piping out BS on the internet.

astrohog

My Feedback: (1)

Lighten up, bro, I think you are taking this toy airplane thing waay too seriously, it's supposed to be fun. Maybe quit spending your time trying to ban other people from participating and you could lighten up a bit.

Astro

ECHO24

And what part of the mind of this little fellow dishing out the psychological diagnosis's dreamed up that me. speed and coupez were conspiring to ban him though our "favor" with the moderators? I'm banned on RCGroups for one.

ECHO24

You're a crack in the hat, "bro".

astrohog

My Feedback: (1)

Who are you to judge? LOL

ECHO24

It's not who's to judge, my little psychological fraud friend. It's that you post only gossip and personal attacks, no actual content. You've boxed yourself in such that you have to side with a serial liar who's dumb as a rock (Rich Hanson) just to get attention, on something you would otherwise agree on. You are a broken person.

astrohog

My Feedback: (1)

Stay angry bro.....

And look up pot calling kettle black. LOL

Propworn

My Feedback: (3)

LOL Speed has the Hog on ignore its driving the pig nuts he can't get a responce from Speed. Looks like hes trying to cultivate a new foil in ECHO24

astrohog

My Feedback: (1)

speed doesn't have me on ignore, he has me on "copy and paste", so he can post in on RCG and then whine to moderation when I reply to defend the lies and BS he posts.
Your claims are bogus and just provide the proof of the wretched humans you are. How many times have you and speedy whined about "bullying"? You guys are deplorable...

crawl back in the dank hole from which you emerged...

Astro

Propworn

My Feedback: (3)

You are correct on having you on ignore through the site he has chosen to have nothing to do with your childish baiting. My mistake this is even better.

I must have hit the nail on the head so close to the truth. Your response says it all LOL!
Now if everyone could do the same I wonder how long it would take for you guys to start feeding on your own? LOL
Look out ECHO24 could it be your turn in the barrel??????????

astrohog

My Feedback: (1)

Just more of the spin, deflection and logical fallacies I've been pointing out for years. Do you even read what you post, or do you just think a bunch of wurdz you type will back you out of the corner you always seem to find yourself in while trolling?

Back up the claims.....

Please show one instance of me trying to have speedy banned?
speedy has simply migrated to a forum that protects and encourages group-think, good-ole-boy protection and doesn't allow for critical thinking, or questioning of someone else's "opinion", whether said opinion is demonstrably wrong or not.

speedy doesn't have me on ignore because of what I've said here, he has me on ignore and has migrated over there because he does not enjoy any favor with moderation here. Pretty simple, really. As I said before, he is not ignoring me at all, he is more interested in my posts than ever, evidenced by his cutting and pasting and aggressive campaign to have me banned. Trolling in its most basic form, just like your posts.

For you to take his side and try to claim it is anything other than I describe is just more evidence of your true colors and motivations.

Look in the mirror.

Astro

ECHO24

Yesterday all love and kisses, Happy Thanksgiving to all! CHEERS!... Today, "wretched humans", "deplorable". The most bat dung crazy is the little man thinking I'm conspiring to get him banned.

He can rack up the troll/insult/gossip post count all he wants. It's a banning offense on RCGroups. And if RCU operated like RCG this place would be the same black hole of carbon copy opinions. We just had our moderator strolling down memory lane in a several-post exchange about boats. Real boats, not even RC. Anyone suffer a forum injury they need to report?

BarracudaHockey

My Feedback: (11)

Just to be clear, as an EC member I do not moderate the AMA forums, thats Ken (RCKen) domain. I'm in here solely as a participant.

Propworn

My Feedback: (3)

Andy we know. The problem is there are some who only hear what they want to hear. Like the Hog claiming some nonsence about me trying to ban him. Come on he's not worth the effort. Like Speedy has bčn doing it's intertaining to see the Hog getting bent out of shape when Speed just doesnt rise to the bait.

franklin_m

Never said you did.

If you reread my question above, I asked if you, as an EC member, are proud of the way AMA members are working to manufacture reasons to ban other AMA members on RCG? We're also well aware that Jim G is tight with AMA, given his status as a CD. Are you proud that a CD is banning members for, at best, questionable reasons. After all, some of us are banned for what others are allowed to do freely. I mean there was an AMA members that set up an entire thread to attack me. The AMA CD that owns the site allowed that.

So, are you proud? Is the AMA so fragile that it's "direct agents" ... i.e. CD's ... ban people?