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Old 12-31-2022, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ECHO24
Boat guy knows how to pull a trailer, so he'll have no issues at all flying a 20lb deadly weapon after 26 years since his Kadet Jr.

I don't see boat guy flying anything ever other than a keyboard. If he does I'm sure Franklin would advise him to crash a few foamies first before jumping to a plane that can kill someone.
I LOVE IT!!! Echo is afraid to fly his gas Cub and he's getting on me because I've not flown a plane in a while and compare it to pulling a trailer.
For the record, I don't do Chinese foam or ARF wanna-be airplanes. I also don't deal with Hobby King, another Chinese company. If I'm flying anything, it will be a handmade aircraft cut from plywood, lite ply, spruce and balsa. At least that way, I know it will be properly built and not assembled with hot glue like most Chinese ARFs are.
You keep mentioning that 24" prop. Are you afraid it's going to hit you and bruise you little hand or is it that you don't know how to tune the engine and are afraid it will kick back and bruise your little hand? I have a 27cc marine gas engine sitting 5 feet from me that will eat that 50 of yours for lunch. It runs at more than twice the RPM of your 50 and will rip you hand off if you're not careful. Care to talk gassers, we race them at speeds comparable to scale nitro boats that are 20% smaller than the gas boats

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Originally Posted by ECHO24
Boat guy knows how to pull a trailer, so he'll have no issues at all flying a 20lb deadly weapon after 26 years since his Kadet Jr.



I don't see boat guy flying anything ever other than a keyboard. If he does I'm sure Franklin would advise him to crash a few foamies first before jumping to a plane that can kill someone.
OK Dude....try breathing into a paper bag for a few minutes....

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Originally Posted by franklin_m
Echo's compadre, Speedy, is as bad or worse -- and a narcissist to boot!
Speed is not my "compadre". I was about to take him off ignore when he doxed Astro gave made that cringe post about owning Astro on RCGroups.

It doesn't help your safety cred when you don't say anything when your half-wit posse member goes on a roll about teaching himself how to fly a 50cc plane, needs no help, and that pulling a trailer makes him qualified. It's just fantasy flying on a model aircraft forum, but it makes a joke of you claiming to be concerned about safety at AMA fields. I have no compadres in that bunch either.
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Originally Posted by ECHO24
It doesn't help your safety cred when you don't say anything when your half-wit posse member goes on a roll about teaching himself how to fly a 50cc plane, needs no help, and that pulling a trailer makes him qualified. It's just fantasy flying on a model aircraft forum, but it makes a joke of you claiming to be concerned about safety at AMA fields. I have no compadres in that bunch either.
Never said I was going to do it all myself, just that I wasn't going to fly a foamy or ARF nor would I join the AMA or an AMA affiliated club. There are places I can fly that don't require either one in my area, just a 107 certificate
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie
Never said I was going to do it all myself, just that I wasn't going to fly a foamy or ARF nor would I join the AMA or an AMA affiliated club. There are places I can fly that don't require either one in my area, just a 107 certificate
A Part 107 certificate, LAANC if 107 is required, individual registration for each plane, and Remote ID, just to start. You are totally lost in an RC fantasy.
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HJ...It's pretty obvious that poor Echo is desperate to discredit your input about your opinion of AMA lmanagement / safety issues.
Imagine how hilarious it would be to watch him run for AMA office on the platform that he does better crosswind landings than his opponent....


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I'm not worried about his thinking I'm living in fantasy land. I know I'll get my planes in the air and my boats on the water and probably do so before he ever flies that Cub. I'm thinking he's grounded by fear, something he seems to be redirecting at me, not that it will matter since we know he's lost all credibility anyway
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie
I LOVE IT!!! Echo is afraid to fly his gas Cub and he's getting on me because I've not flown a plane in a while and compare it to pulling a trailer.
HJ...Tim at Tims Hobbies is who taught me how to fly RC and he used the "back a trailor" analogy as a teaching aid.
It would apply to teaching model hydro pilots too.
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie
I'm not worried about his thinking I'm living in fantasy land. I know I'll get my planes in the air and my boats on the water and probably do so before he ever flies that Cub. I'm thinking he's grounded by fear, something he seems to be redirecting at me, not that it will matter since we know he's lost all credibility anyway
With the old fashioned radios you could probably take his Cub off and land it using nothing but the trim levers....LOL.
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie
I LOVE IT!!! Echo is afraid to fly his gas Cub
I'm not "afraid" of flying it. I'm smart enough not to fly it outside of a dedicated field. The the club I belong to moved. The last time I was there, one of the most experienced guys in the club was flying an E-Flight P-51, had a radio glitch and plowed it into the ground. Flying straight and level and it just healed over. I helped him bag up the pieces scattered over 50 yards. That plane is foam and weighs 6 pounds.

It's pure stupidity to rely on hobby electronics outside of a controlled environment with anything heavy or fast the could injure someone. Not to mention a potential insurance claim. I had my home owners insurance cancelled over my dog biting another dog and a $200 bill. I turned it in thinking no problem, I'm insured. I was also turned into the authorities as would happen if you injured someone with a plane.

If you were going to fly RC you'd be flying RC not just dreaming about it on a forum.



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Originally Posted by ECHO24
The the club I belong to moved. .
...and they kept where they were moving a secret.....
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Originally Posted by ECHO24
If you were going to fly RC you'd be flying RC not just dreaming about it on a forum.
That's a pretty big assumption, isn't it? Did you ever consider that there might be a legitimate reason why I've not built or flown a plane in decades? It seems like you are just assuming I'm nothing more than a "keyboard warrior" without the dedication to the hobby to build or buy a plane. You couldn't be further from the truth if you think that.
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Originally Posted by ECHO24
It's pure stupidity to rely on hobby electronics outside of a controlled environment with anything heavy or fast that could injure someone.
Now that's not what Speed says. He claims he hasn't had an electrical issue in several years, beyond the occasional servo failure. That tells me that either he's lying or you're trying to scare me into NOT building and flying larger aircraft. Now the question is "Which one is it?"
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie
Now that's not what Speed says. He claims he hasn't had an electrical issue in several years, beyond the occasional servo failure. That tells me that either he's lying or you're trying to scare me into NOT building and flying larger aircraft. Now the question is "Which one is it?"
You are clueless chatter monkey boat guy. Speed has several times said he only flies at dedicated fields because are safer than flying off-site (for what he flies). That's the tradeoff not flying at an AMA field. You have to be much more careful. Here's something I'm working on that you won't kill or injure anyone with. $5 airframe. $10 for covering and CF, and $60 for motor, prop and electronics. Files are open-source on Thingiverse.

Give up on your pitiful trolling and get to building.



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I took you off ignore because there is nothing else going on at the moment. Until the newest member to the fake safety posse is potty trained no one else if going to log onto the forum when it's blanked out with one handle.
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You do like to spin things, don't you? I never said a word about WHERE HE FLIES, did I? I said, very specifically, he claims he hasn't had an electrical failure, other than a bad servo or two. That is just the opposite of what you are telling me will happen if I try to fly a large sized aircraft. Component failures are not due to WHERE SOMEONE FLIES, are they? Components fail due to usage, age and load. Where the plane is flow is irrelevant, a simple fact that you're trying to deflect from.
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie
You do like to spin things, don't you? I never said a word about WHERE HE FLIES, did I? I said, very specifically, he claims he hasn't had an electrical failure, other than a bad servo or two. That is just the opposite of what you are telling me will happen if I try to fly a large sized aircraft. Component failures are not due to WHERE SOMEONE FLIES, are they? Components fail due to usage, age and load. Where the plane is flow is irrelevant, a simple fact that you're trying to deflect from.
Component failures are potentially more serious in a non-controlled environment, as are simple mistakes. RC flying means crashing occasionally until you have some experience under your belt.

Give up on the trolling dude. You're pathetic at it anyway. Get to building so you have something useful to add.
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What do you think I've been doing all afternoon? I've got a boat show to be ready for in 7 weeks. I'm working on four new boats and one that is under repair that I want to have in showable condition by then. The aircraft will wait until the FAA gets everything worked out with RID. As far as trolling, that's your game, not mine. That is unless I'm holding a fishing pole

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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie
What do you think I've been doing all afternoon? I've got a boat show to be ready for in 7 weeks. I'm working on four new boats and one that is under repair that I want to have in showable condition by then. The aircraft will wait until the FAA gets everything worked out with RID. As far as trolling, that's your game, not mine. That is unless I'm holding a fishing pole
Remote ID is $200 and some Velcro a year from now.
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Has anyone, besides me anyway, noticed how this thread has died over the past two days since I didn't post anything? I guess our AMA "loyalists" don't have anything to say unless one of us posts something that they can attack. Seems to me that would almost be the definition of "trolling" though, as strange as it sounds, it's not trolling unless one of us "realists" are the ones posting anything that can be attacked.
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie
Has anyone, besides me anyway, noticed how this thread has died over the past two days since I didn't post anything? I guess our AMA "loyalists" don't have anything to say unless one of us posts something that they can attack. Seems to me that would almost be the definition of "trolling" though, as strange as it sounds, it's not trolling unless one of us "realists" are the ones posting anything that can be attacked.
A post like this one that is nothing but gossip is trolling (provocation). Repeatedly posting about boats or any other subject other than model planes is off-topic trolling.
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Originally Posted by ECHO24
....... your half-wit posse member......
Originally Posted by ECHO24
............Is this autism.......... .
Originally Posted by ECHO24
............Jabba the troll......... .
Originally Posted by ECHO24
..................This clown needs a good hosing down with bleach.............
Originally Posted by ECHO24
.............Picture the chatter monkey boat guy on crack........
Echo, you may want to backpedal a bit on the trolling (name calling) yourself if your going to be worried about "off topic trolling". Now I know you've only been here a short time, but I assure you that back when RC Ken moderated this forum you'd have been censored and perhaps banned for each of the quotes above. Showing just a modicum of respect may just get you some respect in return, instead of calling people "clowns" and "chatter monkey" and then demanding respect as though your past performance here has earned any ......
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Originally Posted by ECHO24
A post like this one that is nothing but gossip is trolling (provocation). Repeatedly posting about boats or any other subject other than model planes is off-topic trolling.
Yet you're the one who claims that HJ isn't qualified to voice his opinion here about Government control of our hobby because he is a Boat Guy....
YOU ARE THE ONE WHO LURKS RCU ALL DAY, WAITING FOR FRANKLIN TO POST A NEW THREAD TOPIC JUST SO YOU CAN TAKE A GREAT BIG NASTY DUMP ON IT WITH PERSONAL ATTACKS AND GIRLISH GOSSIP.

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I had a feeling this would be the result of my post from last night. As I said, it's not "trolling" if he makes posts that attack me directly but me making any kind of post that can be "attacked" is. I never called out anyone but have been repeatedly attacked for posting in a forum that I "allegedly" shouldn't be posting in.
My question is to ANDY, our resident moderator. IF this type of abusive conduct was in any other area of the forum, would it be tolerated? I know Propworn and I have gotten into it more than once so I can't say I've not made posts that could be looked at as agressive. What I can say is I've never made posts that imply personal harm, such as hosing someone down with bleach.
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Echo, you may want to backpedal a bit on the trolling (name calling) yourself if your going to be worried about "off topic trolling". Now I know you've only been here a short time, but I assure you that back when RC Ken moderated this forum you'd have been censored and perhaps banned for each of the quotes above. Showing just a modicum of respect may just get you some respect in return, instead of calling people "clowns" and "chatter monkey" and then demanding respect as though your past performance here has earned any ......
Indeed, Hydro's post was a provocation and here you are.

Those about Jabba the troll? Get real. The guy is a gas powered troll leaf blower. 10 threads blanked out with his handle. Those of mine are in response to dozen's of troll posts. Same with Hydro and his incessant off-topic trolling about boats and scores of thought farts I don't know what you'd call besides autism.

It will work itself out. Come next New Year the chatter monkey boat guy will still not be flying RC planes and Jabba the troll will fizzle out. Ray Liotta was also a democrat, another go-to in his troll kit. Not an A+ for a guy who wears his conservative politics on his sleeve.

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