Time for the AMA to step up
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This month's MA has article where it sounds like a club did it right. Some wanted to hold a soaring event at the site, and club leadership told them (paraphrase) "Show us the written waiver to the 400 limit..." to which they could not. So club decided to not jeopardize their FRIA application by hosting event they knew or should know is in violation of the law. BZ to the club for thinking long term and making sure that if anyone looks, the FAA sees them as "doing it right" when nobody is looking.
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Exactly.
This month's MA has article where it sounds like a club did it right. Some wanted to hold a soaring event at the site, and club leadership told them (paraphrase) "Show us the written waiver to the 400 limit..." to which they could not. So club decided to not jeopardize their FRIA application by hosting event they knew or should know is in violation of the law. BZ to the club for thinking long term and making sure that if anyone looks, the FAA sees them as "doing it right" when nobody is looking.
This month's MA has article where it sounds like a club did it right. Some wanted to hold a soaring event at the site, and club leadership told them (paraphrase) "Show us the written waiver to the 400 limit..." to which they could not. So club decided to not jeopardize their FRIA application by hosting event they knew or should know is in violation of the law. BZ to the club for thinking long term and making sure that if anyone looks, the FAA sees them as "doing it right" when nobody is looking.
Here is the actual article. Also keep in mind that lead time on print articles is typically 3 months, this information is 3 months old.


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#82

2. Why does the fact that it's three months old make any difference?
3. Writer even comments that late news was 700 or 1200 was forthcoming, but then indicates that's not enough.
If you look at the airspace around Taft CA (area of the state with which I'm very familiar), you see that the floor of the class G in that area is 1200, which is the max they'll get unless they hold their events in controlled airspace. But that comes with more strings. You'll also note several Victor airways very close to Taft: V173, T263, V183; not to mention low altitude military training routes, VR1262 and VR1256.
I personally think it's a mistake that AMA isn't starting to shape the expectations of members like this, that with few exceptions, either 700 or 1200 is the likely max they can expect in class G. I personally don't see FAA approving any higher than that, as most airways begin at those altitudes. And, unlike airspace around busy airports, the primary radar coverage is lacking in class G. And given the impact on other Victor Airways above 1200, I don't see FAA vectoring off Victor Airways to avoid people flying toys.
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#83

The point I was trying to make is this:
Say the RID goes into effect in September as scheduled. If you fly at a site with a pending FRIA application that has not yet been approved then you will need a module in your model until the FRIA application is approved. Once the FRIA application is approved you will no longer need to have a module in your plane.
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The point I was trying to make is this:
Say the RID goes into effect in September as scheduled. If you fly at a site with a pending FRIA application that has not yet been approved then you will need a module in your model until the FRIA application is approved. Once the FRIA application is approved you will no longer need to have a module in your plane.
Say the RID goes into effect in September as scheduled. If you fly at a site with a pending FRIA application that has not yet been approved then you will need a module in your model until the FRIA application is approved. Once the FRIA application is approved you will no longer need to have a module in your plane.
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IMO, if anyone puts their bias aside it’s pretty clear that the FAA is working with the CBA’s and aviation stakeholders in order to ease some of the initial regulations so we can continue our hobby as before. Yes there is a bit more work these days but the end result is driving out to a local club field and fly as we always have. I understand that some avoid the club atmosphere, that is their choice to make.
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Not necessarily. I live where I do because of the location as well as the prices of houses and utilities when the wife and I bought the one we live in. It wasn't as much a choice as it was a necessity to buy what and where we did.
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IF I'm reading that correctly, you're telling me that, since I drove between 180 and 190 miles yesterday to go to an R/C boat race, I should find another hobby if I am unable to afford the drive(which, for the record, cost me half a tank of gas in my truck) or don't want to waste the time to do so.
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So, let me see if I understand your last few posts. You're saying that, if someone would have to drive 140 miles to fly at a FRIA that either doesn't want or can't afford to should find another hobby?
IF I'm reading that correctly, you're telling me that, since I drove between 180 and 190 miles yesterday to go to an R/C boat race, I should find another hobby if I am unable to afford the drive(which, for the record, cost me half a tank of gas in my truck) or don't want to waste the time to do so.
IF I'm reading that correctly, you're telling me that, since I drove between 180 and 190 miles yesterday to go to an R/C boat race, I should find another hobby if I am unable to afford the drive(which, for the record, cost me half a tank of gas in my truck) or don't want to waste the time to do so.
Now that RID is eventually going to be a requirement, either get a module or fly at a FRIA. If neither of those choices are agreeable to you then the options are now fly illegally or quit.
Honestly though, you’ve been talking about finishing your airplanes for years now, is this really a concern of yours?
#96

In a word, YES!!!
If I took your last several posts to mean what I posted, how many others took them the same way?
I spent a considerable amount of time, yesterday, talking with new and prospective club members and encouraging them. Had I said to them "If traveling or costs are an issue, find another hobby", what would they have done? For someone that's thinking about getting into the hobby, they would have walked away and and never looked back. For the new members, each of which had already bought a used boat, we would have probably seen every one of their boats in the club website "For Sale" area or on Ebay
If I took your last several posts to mean what I posted, how many others took them the same way?
I spent a considerable amount of time, yesterday, talking with new and prospective club members and encouraging them. Had I said to them "If traveling or costs are an issue, find another hobby", what would they have done? For someone that's thinking about getting into the hobby, they would have walked away and and never looked back. For the new members, each of which had already bought a used boat, we would have probably seen every one of their boats in the club website "For Sale" area or on Ebay
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First off, if they were at the lake or flying field they are already aware of the travel time/expense. I also think that the best policy is to give any perspective newbie all the required information so they can make an informed decision.
You really need to stop trying to make more out of my posts then what is actually there.
You really need to stop trying to make more out of my posts then what is actually there.