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What status to fly in International RC competitions for Team USA?

Old 01-13-2006, 01:29 PM
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Well if either one of you knew ANYTHING about statistics this poll has already shown many things.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.
I know I just fell off the Turnip Truck, but denial in my mind is when you refuse to admit you are losing! Thats my defenition of denial! So I think you may have things a tad turned around!
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Listen I know that citizenship will take it home for the winning team ... I've said it several times.

But it won't be imbalanced as Chips poll.

Broken record.
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Listen I know that citizenship will take it home for the winning team ... I've said it several times.

But it won't be imbalanced as Chips poll.

Broken record.
So what are you going to say when it does become imbalanced, which I predict it will given time? Maybe somebody is voting your way just because they love OMP Planes!
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What sort of frigin' 3 world conversation is going on here? Are people suggesting that foreign nationals that reside in any country should be allow to compete and represent that country?
Hello?... are people saying if I move to Japan on a working permit I should be able to represent Japan or Pakistan... how about the Saudi Arabia or why we're at it, Congo?
Oh I can see it now... "next up is Erik the the God damned Viking from the frozen North representing the Congo!"
It's absurd enough even if I got instant citizenship.
Those born in a country to nationalized parents, period.
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Well Bla Bla, the USA is not Norway. We are a "melting pot" for the world that shares our country with others who wish for flourish in life.
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Well Bla Bla, the USA is not Norway. We are a "melting pot" for the world that shares our country with others who wish for flourish in life.
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Well Bla Bla, the USA is not Norway. We are a "melting pot" for the world that shares our country with others who wish for flourish in life.
Your statement is quite true, and I would oppose our country not allowing people from other countries the chance to become American Citizens. Yet until the time that they get their citizenship they should not be allowed to represent a country in a World Tournement that they are not a citizen of. I also agree with your previous statements about how we owe thanks to non American citizens who are fighting for us in the Military. These people should recieve a speedy track to Citizenship if they so desire, but they should wait until they are actual citizens before competing on a U.S World Team!
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This problem was solved in the last thread. Since this is a team that's going to travel internationally, anyone who is on it will need a passport. Only US citizens can get a US passport.
To travel internationally a person needs a passport TRUE. BUT NOT NECESSARILY A US PASSPORT. Therefore that argument won't work for those that are looking for excuses to keep Quique out of the US team.
By the way there are precedents of legal residents that were not citizens and represented the US. One of those precedents is the 75,000 non-citizens that were sent to Vietnam as soldiers. By the way they were not there to fly pattern. Those people fought and died for the US and they did not have a US passport.

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I also agree with your previous statements about how we owe thanks to non American citizens who are fighting for us in the Military. But they should wait until they are actual citizens before competing on a U.S World Team
You thank them for carrying a weapon and standing in front of a bullet FOR YOU. But then you slap them in the face and say they can't represent us in SPORT???? How IRONIC IS THAT! I'm sure they really appreciate your thanks!

Since when is the military not a US World Team. Did you ever serve a day in the military. My guess would be no, because if you did you would not be saying that. Everything about the USA Military is teamwork, teams, honor, integrity and representation for our country. They don't need to be throwing a football down the field to prove it for you! Instead they give their sweat, back, blood and sometimes life so YOU CAN SLEEP BETTER AT NITE.

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to keep Quique out of the US team.

Is this what all of this is about?
Why should he represent the US team... he's Argentinean.
Ok so he's moved to the US... sponsorship, big bucks what ever... but he's still Argentinean.
You just cant import people, make 'em citizen walk off with gold, open a bottle of bubbly and then sit back proud to be an American.
Tell you what, we'll ship him, CPLR and the Matts over to Norway and pay them them compete for this Country.
Sure they'll win everything... Norway would be the worlds leading F3A country over night... and guest what, you Americans on RCU wouldn't stop complaining about how wrong and how stupid it was.
He's a great pilot... he should be flying in world class competition no doubt about it but regardless of where he lives, he should represent Argentina.
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Here ya go Norway, here is a link to plain text version of the US Constitution. You might notice that it's written by the people and for the people in a democratic format.

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.txt

We are not socialists here is the good ol' US of A. The way things happen in our country don't happen in other countries. You may find that odd ... but true. This is why we have many communities in America with names like Chinatown, Little Italy, Japantown and so forth. We embrace (at least 38% of us) our foreigners as we have since we conquered the British some 230 years ago.
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This problem was solved in the last thread. Since this is a team that's going to travel internationally, anyone who is on it will need a passport. Only US citizens can get a US passport.
To travel internationally a person needs a passport TRUE. BUT NOT NECESSARILY A US PASSPORT.
Well, DUH. I guess you missed the last 2 words in my post "US passport".
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I also agree with your previous statements about how we owe thanks to non American citizens who are fighting for us in the Military. But they should wait until they are actual citizens before competing on a U.S World Team
You thank them for carrying a weapon and standing in front of a bullet FOR YOU. But then you slap them in the face and say they can't represent us in SPORT???? How IRONIC IS THAT! I'm sure they really appreciate your thanks!
We also tell them they can't vote. Go fix that issue and then come back and work on the rest of your agenda. You keep forgetting this discussion is about whether people think US teams should be US citizens or anyone who is legally living in this country, not curing all the wrongs you think we are doing to legal residents.
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This problem was solved in the last thread. Since this is a team that's going to travel internationally, anyone who is on it will need a passport. Only US citizens can get a US passport.
To travel internationally a person needs a passport TRUE. BUT NOT NECESSARILY A US PASSPORT.
Well, DUH. I guess you missed the last 2 words in my post "US passport".
Your post implies that non-US citizens could not travel because they could not get a US passport. While it is true that they will not get a US passport. That does not mean that they would not be able to travel internationally.
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What sort of frigin' 3 world conversation is going on here? Are people suggesting that foreign nationals that reside in any country should be allow to compete and represent that country?
Actually, the thread you've stumbled into is just Dion trying to dig himself out of a huge hole. He's PO'd because people disagree with him. It seems he doesn't have the sense of national pride that others do and does not care who represents his country.
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STLPilot, Bla bla's statements make more sence then your bla blabbing.
Of course they make more sense TO YOU. You should move to Norway, I hear they get free medical care. Of course at a 20% tax increase each month.
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to keep Quique out of the US team.

Is this what all of this is about?
Why should he represent the US team... he's Argentinean.
Ok so he's moved to the US... sponsorship, big bucks what ever... but he's still Argentinean.
You just cant import people, make 'em citizen walk off with gold, open a bottle of bubbly and then sit back proud to be an American.
Tell you what, we'll ship him, CPLR and the Matts over to Norway and pay them them compete for this Country.
Sure they'll win everything... Norway would be the worlds leading F3A country over night... and guest what, you Americans on RCU wouldn't stop complaining about how wrong and how stupid it was.
He's a great pilot... he should be flying in world class competition no doubt about it but regardless of where he lives, he should represent Argentina.
Two years from now he will pass a test and obtain his citizenship.
I wonder what is going to be Chip's excuse then.
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He's PO'd because people disagree with him.
40% do.

No national pride? HA! I just understand what national pride is better then a few of you. National pride is sharing and liberty for all. Not just mine mine mine.
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This problem was solved in the last thread. Since this is a team that's going to travel internationally, anyone who is on it will need a passport. Only US citizens can get a US passport.
To travel internationally a person needs a passport TRUE. BUT NOT NECESSARILY A US PASSPORT.
Well, DUH. I guess you missed the last 2 words in my post "US passport".
Your post implies that non-US citizens could not travel because they could not get a US passport. While it is true that they will not get a US passport. That does not mean that they would not be able to travel internationally.
My post implied no such thing when it was in context (how to verify US citizenship). You took it out of context in an attempt to create an argument. Go troll someone else.
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He's PO'd because people disagree with him.
40% do.
Which means 60%, so far, don't!

No national pride? HA! I just understand what national pride is better then a few of you. National pride is sharing and liberty for all. Not just mine mine mine.
I doubt you will ever understand why so many disagree with you.

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