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Old 08-02-2003, 10:38 PM
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The main thing is is the big joke and know one is laughing.
Old 08-02-2003, 10:54 PM
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No one....
Not KNOW one, YOU KNOW???


What grade you in up there in Colorado??? You living in the mountains and not going to school??
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I am a little curious. This is a subject on the thread that has not been touched.

I have always been thinking of something on the order of $150 for flight training. Seems like you could make a fair case for $50 going to gas, food, etc. for the instructor. That leaves him with something in the neighborhood for $100 for his efforts. If an instructor had 3 or 4 students a month, this seems within reason, although I would think it really might be more like 1 or 2.

I have never thought that it might be on the order of $1000 per student or 15 to 20 students a month. I think the amount and number of students will make the difference whether the idea is accepted by the clubs, even if the AMA does OK the insurance. Remember, the clubs still control the field.

What numbers are you envisioning? What is acceptable and what is not?

Would you want your club to require club memebership before the instructor could train a newbie?

JR
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I would be happy if the "student" pay the club/instructor in KIND!
I just got home from mowing at one of the club fields....You know how many were at my club field today?? How many wanted to jump on the old rider-mower and give me a break?? NONE!

I guess that's why I get paid the BIG bucks, you know!!

Jim knows.......
Old 08-03-2003, 12:28 AM
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Well since they don't charge in my club (I only work with one instructor) I plan on giving a good tip.

Something like a nice gift certificate to Tower (if they have those) or a couple of gallons of fuel at least. I'd buy him a two stroke engine but he's a 4-stroke only guy and I really don't wanna buy a pumped O.S. 1.20 4 -stroke he wants....
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THAT's a very good idea, Borzak! Even the smallest gift is appreciated... Fuel is ALWAYS used!!

Maybe even take an extra cold drink if it's hot out and offer, or a sandwich if it's around lunch time.. Maybe show a little extra interest in the plane HE flys when not instructing....

Most of the time Instructors are happy to just have another flying buddy!!
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Originally posted by SAPropbuster
THAT's a very good idea, Borzak! Even the smallest gift is appreciated... Fuel is ALWAYS used!!

Maybe even take an extra cold drink if it's hot out and offer, or a sandwich if it's around lunch time.. Maybe show a little extra interest in the plane HE flys when not instructing....

Most of the time Instructors are happy to just have another flying buddy!!
I always bring an ice chest of stuff for the both of us. It's like as hot as San Antonia here - just quadruple the humidity

Yeah we get along well cause we both like the old school type airplanes that we've both flown full scale like cubs and stuff.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Crashem
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Yeah I could see that happening.
Just because you don't have the capacity to imagine this might actually happen doesn't mean it won't...

This hobby attracts more window shoppers then converts.
Free instruction is great......... Paid instruction in some cases could be more of a help then hinderence
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Yeah, in some cases... I think I made the same point earlier....

Most clubs busy days are weekends simply restrict instruction on weekends.
Don't think this would work. Most people have a weekend day off rather than a week day...

In that case most members would be unaware an unaffected if Hot dog instructor teaches tuesdays from 8am-12pm
Yeah, I can see some hot dog instructor limiting himself that way. Kind of a special hot dog that guy must be. Most hot dogs I know don't give a flip about anybody else except themselves, hence the problem... Thought you'd had that figured out earlier.
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Originally posted by J_R
I am a little curious. This is a subject on the thread that has not been touched.

I have always been thinking of something on the order of $150 for flight training. Seems like you could make a fair case for $50 going to gas, food, etc. for the instructor. That leaves him with something in the neighborhood for $100 for his efforts. If an instructor had 3 or 4 students a month, this seems within reason, although I would think it really might be more like 1 or 2.

I have never thought that it might be on the order of $1000 per student or 15 to 20 students a month. I think the amount and number of students will make the difference whether the idea is accepted by the clubs, even if the AMA does OK the insurance. Remember, the clubs still control the field.

What numbers are you envisioning? What is acceptable and what is not?

Would you want your club to require club memebership before the instructor could train a newbie?

JR

Well JR seems like not too many care to answer those questions. I hope it is because they well know that should AMA work something up where a Club designated Instructor could charge a fee for Instructing another AMA member on an AMA Charter Club's facility and all are covered under the AMA's provided insurance, then it would be up to the individual clubs and/or the individual instructors to state their bottom line.

Local economy conditions, supply and demand and all such will set the price for any given area. Some areas, there will be no price as all the free instruction needed will be available. Other areas will demand top dollar as many will prefer the on-demand time schedule.

Kind of like up *NAWTH* in the MI U-P, last week a cucumber of average size was $1 in the IGA. Here this week they are 4 for a $. Good corn there was 10 for a $, but 4 for a $ here this week.
Supply and demand will set the price level and no additional rules and regulations will be needed from you and Big Brother.
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Old 09-05-2003, 01:11 AM
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Hi Horace, Glad to see you are still at it. I sure are glad you were one of my instructors. Between you Glenn and Don, it took all three to get going, and I'm happy to report that I'm still at it. Still building and breaking and enjoying every minute of it. Bob
Old 09-06-2003, 05:03 AM
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Default Hello BOB!

Originally posted by R. Loehner
Hi Horace, Glad to see you are still at it. I sure are glad you were one of my instructors. Between you Glenn and Don, it took all three to get going, and I'm happy to report that I'm still at it. Still building and breaking and enjoying every minute of it. Bob
Great to hear from you. Sure would like to see you. See your picture in "High Flight" now and then.

Haven't seen Glenn since back in '95 before I retired.

Do you get up to the Chi-town land any more? I visit Venture Hobby ever so often. Big place now.

Sure miss that rip-roaring, _ell Bent for leather bunch of Skylarks.
When I came back to TX in '85, all I found was a bunch of grumpy ol' grandmothers. Took some time but we got some changes made. Lots of fun-types around now, but never like the Skylarks back then. We did have fun.
Do you remember that day we did 10 rounds of flying and called for each other? 20 flights, with less than 30 minutes for all and we were dead on our feet. What a day?

Hey, Bob, thanks for the note and let's do keep in touch.
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Old 09-06-2003, 10:46 AM
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MITWRN! :stupid:

Originally posted by Hossfly

When I came back to TX in '85, all I found was a bunch of grumpy ol' grandmothers.


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