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I mostly buy ARFs
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I mostly build from kits or scratch
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AMA memmbers, do you build or buy?

Old 08-26-2010, 12:13 PM
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Default AMA memmbers, do you build or buy?

Since polls are kind of limited, discussion is welcome as long as you answer the poll question.
Old 08-26-2010, 12:31 PM
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Default RE: AMA memmbers, do you build or buy?

Top Flite and Balsa USA kits and Ziroli plans.

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Old 08-26-2010, 12:33 PM
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I like to design and build planes that are interesting to me, maybe not to everyone, if there is enough interest then I may develope the kit!
Old 08-26-2010, 12:36 PM
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I like to buy ARFs that I like of subjects I will likely never get around to building and I like to build a few kits, but mostly do my own designs when building, these days.
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Default RE: AMA memmbers, do you build or buy?

I build a few kits but I mainly buy rolled plans that look interesting to me and I build most of my planes off plans. My favorite part about building an airplane is spending time on my scoll saw cutting out all the parts to a plane.

Its kind of Ironic because in school I am majoring in Manufacturing Technology and most all of my classes deal with programing CNC machines and laser cutters/engravers. I have thought about scanning some plans and turning them in to CAD files to laser cut out but I just enjoy cutting out the pieces by hand to much.
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I buy to build.
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Default RE: AMA memmbers, do you build or buy?

Depends on how quickly I want to get a plane in the air. I've ARFed, I've scratched, I've kitted.

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Old 08-26-2010, 05:18 PM
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Depends on how quickly I want to get a plane in the air. I've ARFed, I've scratched, I've kitted.

Brad
^^^ this...
Old 08-26-2010, 05:39 PM
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I like the convienience of AFR's but a good winter build (kit or scratch) keeps you sharp. I repair alot of other guys planes who would normally throw them away (love the challenge). I always give them back so the owners are quite happy. Building gives you the skills to repair. I've noticed that guys who do nothing but buy ARf's tend to "pitch and buy" rather than "repair and fly."

However guys do it, is OK with me...different strokes for different folks![8D]
Some people have lots of time (builders) and others have so many other things going on (ARFers) Neither are bad and BOTH are great for the hobby!
Old 08-27-2010, 10:40 AM
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Design and build from CADRA. Cut up my plots, 3M-77 to the wood, cut to the line, damm good fit. Going to try something new for my next big EDF - convert the plot to DXF and have EJF laser cut out the parts.
Old 08-27-2010, 10:57 AM
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I cut both Balsa and blue FFF,
but I also fly an arf around
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My breakdown is:
3 ARF helis (1 more still in box)
6 RTF helis
2 Kit helis
7 Kit planes (12 more still in box)
5 ARF planes (3 more still in box)
3 scratch built planes
Biggest plane has 36" WS.
All aircraft are electric powered.
Old 08-27-2010, 09:03 PM
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Default RE: AMA memmbers, do you build or buy?

I'm glad to see so many builders here and kind of surprised.
Old 08-27-2010, 09:16 PM
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Default RE: AMA memmbers, do you build or buy?

I wonder if anyone would really admit to doing RTF only.
Flaw in the poll for sure.
I am torn between what I would call a kit vs ARF. I think some GWS "ARF" foamies are tougher to put together than a lot of kits.
I know GWS calls them ARFs only for marketing purposes.
It is nice to see how many builders there are here.
So why is flying the focus of the AMA? I spend a lot more time, money and thought building than flying.
Old 08-27-2010, 10:27 PM
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Kit, scratch, ARF, RTF - love 'em all.
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I suggested here that some of the plans in the plan service should be either free or offered at a discount rate once a year and that idea got shot down like a clay pigeon. Not saying it would have a measurable effect on modeling interest, but could help kindle a spark.
Some of the plans are small enough to stuff into the re-up package.
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I wonder if they pay royalties to the copyright owners of the plans.
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Default RE: AMA memmbers, do you build or buy?

I think that would be a geat idea. I know I am always looking for new plans that would be fun to build. I think it would be neat if they put a set of fold out plans in some of the AMA magazines once in a while, not necessarily of big advanced projects but smaller fun fly type planes that would apeal to alot of people and inspire them to build.
Old 08-27-2010, 10:53 PM
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I get the drafting students and teacher to work on my drawings. I provide scale 3 and 4 views and they have to dimension it and break down the views depending on what the teacher is focusing on at the time. Helps me, helps the teacher and helps the students. Winners all.
Gives them something real to work on and maybe sparks an interest in aviation.
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ORIGINAL: combatpigg

I'm glad to see so many builders here and kind of surprised.

I BUILD. I do some ARFs. I buy some redibuilts and usually have to "rebuild" them. I don't like to have a model break up in the air like a lot of ARFs do, and some guys build a pretty model, but the stress points are pitifully overlooked.

Left to right : 1. Bipe and Guff - purchased, ARF racer, Other high wing I built. 2. ME-110 - built, 3. HE-113D - Bashed from Midwest P-51 Fun Scale kit, 4-6 ARFs,
7. FW 190D-9 kit bashed to FW 190-D-13

Lots of others.
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Old 08-28-2010, 01:34 PM
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I build, I build, and I build. I own one model airplane that was built by someone else. That one was built by my best friend, Dick Watz. Its the Cessna 195 that was in Toledo a couple of years ago in Wendell's booth. I'm proud to own that. I don't claim it as mine though. It will always be Dick's plane.

Claiming that you built either an ARF, or a model that someone else built is nothing but a lie. Its kind of like driving your big Brothers car and showing it off. It's not yours, so why show off in it?

I mostly draw my own plans, and cut the parts and build the scale model. Its what I enjoy doing. If you don't then fine, just don't claim to be a modeler if you didn't build it. You bought it? You are just a flier.

To answer the question as to the Royalty payments from the AMA; The answer is no. I drew the parts templates for the fifth scale Waco YMF 5 that the AMA sells the plans for. They supply the parts templates when you order the kit. My payment is knowing that this model can still be built, long after the original kit manufacturer has closed its doors. That is payment enough. I've seen the first model fly that was built from these plans and drawings. Its kind of like watching your kid take his first steps.

Bill, AMA 4720
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1st photo is one of mine being covered with cloth and dope.
2nd photo is Dan Hudson with the first Waco built from plans and templates. Great Job Dan.
3rd photo is one of my little Waco YMF 5's in fifth scale. 27% is on the drafting table.
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I like designing my own. No more sarisfaction than flying something I designed, bult, and fiddled with until it worked to suit me. I've recently been flying Old Time Stunt. This is mostly building from plans, with some designing to get a fuel tank of the right size in, and modifying the internal structure to fit the engine I want to use. I fly diesels a good bit, and also glow, and use silk, silkspan, tissue, and dope. I don't care to have an ARF, but what ever you like to fly is fine with me.
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I'm an Arf'er.
I measure, cut, sand, shape, glue, nail and screw wood pieces
together all day, every day in my job.
Doing it as a hobby don't appeal to me.
I just wanna fly.
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ORIGINAL: 804

I'm an Arf'er.
I measure, cut, sand, shape, glue, nail and screw wood pieces
together all day, every day in my job.
Doing it as a hobby don't appeal to me.
I just wanna fly.
Now that's refreshing to hear, 804. I fly ARFs (and swap meet airplanes - picked up 2 more this AM). Not that I don't like to build, I do that sometimes too. I make trade-offs in the allocation of precious discretionary time though, and flying takes priority ahead of building. Yay for ARF's!
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I do think that flyers who don't build, as well as builders who don't fly, are missing half of the hobby. I am sure many just haven't gotten around to it yet.
I am a builder first, flyer second. I spend more time in the workshop than the air. I like it that way for now, but things always change. When I got my first aircraft (RTF Heli) I thought "this is all I want to do". Silly me, I was bitten and didn't know it.

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