Enforcement is of course another question. But suppose the FAA adopts a 400 foot AGL limit for models, maybe within five miles of an airport (which is most places) or everywhere, maybe for models over a certain size, maybe for everybody. They might then require telemetry in models over a certain size. That would seriously limit things like turbines. Earlier on, there was talk about outlawing turbines entirely, though I gather from the AMA publications that they aren't pushing this. At least for now. Park fliers will be fine. Some of us fly different kinds of planes. Maybe the worrying is excessive. But when people claim that the FAA has no power to limit anything related to modeling, that's just nuts.
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Originally Posted by bradpaul
(Post 11604991)
While I agree 100% with the political position of your post, as long as idiots are flying quadcopters into the faces of those that they are video recording or crashing quadcopters into spectators in stadiums, we have a problem............ not with the FAA............... not opressive government........... but idiots that have no regard for flying safe. .
FYI the list of negative interaction's of models and GA is fairly long but in MOST cases they were accidents. Most were not caused by some modeler acting with his checkbook hubris. THAT issue is part of what the FAA would like to manage and it leads places I would rather we did not have to go. Transponders in models would be a very expensive proposition. The expense would not just be financial, but support. Larger airframes and power plants to carry the extra dead weight of the transponder, power supply, and required testing, certifications, and proof you did not fly with it turned off. <shudder> Are they under consideration? I do not know but I do know that in general the FAA does not make regulations that they cannot enforce. Actually I have thought for the last 20+ years that their regulations started out with the enforcement methodology and penalty before the standard was locked in. But I could be all wet. |
The last couple of posts touched on the single biggest aspect of determining what the FAA will do...enforcement!
I think that even AMA recognizes how devastating overbearing FAA rules and laws would be, negatively impact it's own "worth". Many people would simply drop AMA and revert to a course much like the FCC's action had on CBers years ago... |
Originally Posted by bradpaul
(Post 11604826)
https://nfdc.faa.gov/aimnews/media/FNS_SysLink.pdf |
But when people claim that the FAA has no power to limit anything related to modeling, that's just nuts. |
Originally Posted by Sport_Pilot
(Post 11605588)
It's only nuts to cede that power to them. This is no longer the free government we had.
I've come to the conclusion that most Americans want nothing more than to defer responsibility to the authority of a third party... As someone pointed out earlier...and I think that might have been you...having civil courts work out issues such as the one Brad has infused into this discussion is a fleeting concept...most would rather have big brother just take care of it all...no matter the actual cost or unintended consequences. |
and there is no such thing as "free government", government is probably the most expensive thing man ever came up with.
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My reference was not about cost, but our current lack of freedom or rights.
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and the greatest cost we pay to any government, is, our freedom and our rights.
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We could go back to Free Flight-No radio, no battery, no fuel and no noise-except for the noise of a 55lb free flight hitting a house or car!!
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Originally Posted by PLANE JIM
(Post 11616661)
We could go back to Free Flight-No radio, no battery, no fuel and no noise-except for the noise of a 55lb free flight hitting a house or car!!
I very strongly suspect that if the FAA sticks its toe in our water, each of us will discover that the rest of its rule making and fine issuing body will come with it. Meaning that they think they control everything that goes in the air because that is what your congress critter told them. Think of kite flying under regulation... |
Originally Posted by Jim Branaum
(Post 11616695)
Or a person? Well, I guess you would hear a scream.
I very strongly suspect that if the FAA sticks its toe in our water, each of us will discover that the rest of its rule making and fine issuing body will come with it. Meaning that they think they control everything that goes in the air because that is what your congress critter told them. Think of kite flying under regulation... http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx...1.3.15&idno=14 |
I should have been more specific and said having to get a license from the FAA for kite flying because I forgot about those. It has been several decades since I got in trouble for breaking one of those rules...
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Not to worry...we are licensed as Americans nowadays. We are given our number at birth. In most cases the term license is simply semantics about the privileges we are allowed. And the ability to have whatever privilege is highly dependent on the money thrown at it...
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Originally Posted by Jim Branaum
(Post 11616930)
I should have been more specific and said having to get a license from the FAA for kite flying because I forgot about those. It has been several decades since I got in trouble for breaking one of those rules...
"§ 101.23 General operating limitations. (a) You must operate an amateur rocket in such a manner that it: (1) Is launched on a suborbital trajectory;" :( |
DRONE crash lands in Manhattan
You just can't make this stuff up................................. idiots and multi rotor FPV drones flying in the wrong places.
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...ors&id=9270668 More fodder for the FAA............................... |
Originally Posted by bradpaul
(Post 11629296)
You just can't make this stuff up................................. idiots and multi rotor FPV drones flying in the wrong places.
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...ors&id=9270668 More fodder for the FAA............................... |
Sounds like the pilot, when or if caught, will likely be charged with reckless endangerment...
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Originally Posted by Sport_Pilot
(Post 11401436)
They make the so called assault rifles in any caliber, the M1 was 30-06 and I beleive many called it an assault rifle, not sure if it was on the ban or not. The caliberhad nothing to do with the ban a few years ago. AK-47's are said to be a good hunting gun by some.
The originals were any personally owned or hand carried rifle. As written the constitution and amendments (Bill of Rights) cover assault rifles. The M1, Springfield, Remington, and the civil war era "rolling block" were all designed to be "assault" rifles. Some decades ago, when civil insurrection was going on, the military removed and destroyed large quantities of rifles from various armory's and reserve centers. |
Originally Posted by chuckk2
(Post 11629606)
What it boils down to is the public perception of what is an "assault rifle".
The originals were any personally owned or hand carried rifle. As written the constitution and amendments (Bill of Rights) cover assault rifles. The M1, Springfield, Remington, and the civil war era "rolling block" were all designed to be "assault" rifles. Some decades ago, when civil insurrection was going on, the military removed and destroyed large quantities of rifles from various armory's and reserve centers. |
Originally Posted by chuckk2
(Post 11629606)
What it boils down to is the public perception of what is an "assault rifle".
Yes, as "instructed" by the mainstream entertainment media that used to go by the name of 'news'. That is THE root problem that we have and we must make sure we are on the correct side of least the FAA do a knee jerk due to the mass media firestorm someone (in that industry) keeps trying to start and fools keep trying to help. IMNSHO. YMMV |
They have idiots in Austraila also: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...et-review.html
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Originally Posted by bradpaul
(Post 11630640)
They have idiots in Austraila also: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...et-review.html
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Thank you LCS for your words of encouragment! I will do my best to continue to expose the idiots.
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Originally Posted by bradpaul
(Post 11630799)
Thank you LCS for your words of encouragment! I will do my best to continue to expose the idiots.
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