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Originally Posted by rgburrill (Post 12272408)

Has to keep this topic distracted, you know.

Another visit from the thread purity police, lol. Guess you missed the whole dsmx and insurance discussion a few posts back. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by porcia83 (Post 12272299)

Well.... youre comparing the whole contents of the engine disintegrating with a drone , not tge same thing. I'll defer to the mechanics here but I think a drone might do less damage or the damage would be contained better. I don't think anyone has ever said that a drone would cause no damage being ingested into an engine

I doubt the damage would be better contained since, for that engine to explode the way it did, throwing shards of metal through the outer casing, all it probably took is one blade to fail for the engine to unbalance. Once the engine is unbalanced, nothing is going to save it, especially at 100% N2, for the compressor blades or 100% N1 for the front fan as needed for a take off run and climb out. If the plane was at cruising speed or slowing down for landing, the outer casing MIGHT contain the explosion but, as shown by the A-380 engine failure, it might not

Rupprecht Law P. A

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[TD="class: yiv7741865103mcnTextContent"]Interested in flying your drone at civil twilight or at night?

I created an article called How to Fly Your Drone at Night-(Part 107 Night Waiver from 107.29) which includes an infographic explaining what you legally need to do to fly your drone under Part 107.

You can download the two page PDF handout version of the infographic here.This PDF is perfect for handouts for students or for pilots in the field. [/TD]
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Originally Posted by HoundDog (Post 12273249)

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[TD="class: yiv7741865103mcnTextContent"]Interested in flying your drone at civil twilight or at night?

I created an article called How to Fly Your Drone at Night-(Part 107 Night Waiver from 107.29) which includes an infographic explaining what you legally need to do to fly your drone under Part 107.

You can download the two page PDF handout version of the infographic here.This PDF is perfect for handouts for students or for pilots in the field.[/TD]
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Good stuff, thanks Dog!

Part 107 Doesn't apply to AMA members flying under an CBO does it?

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Originally Posted by HoundDog (Post 12273287)

Part 107 Doesn't apply to AMA members flying under an CBO does it?

I thought 107 had to do with commercial droning.

https://www.faa.gov/uas/getting_star...work_business/

Mike

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Originally Posted by HoundDog (Post 12273287)

Part 107 Doesn't apply to AMA members flying under an CBO does it?

According to AMA it doesn't, at this time. If FAA has their way, it will. There is a court ordered stay in place now and until FAA completes certain actions. The fat lady isn't singing yet.

Drones Offer More Career Options for Guardsmen: General

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In order to support remotely piloted aircraft missions around the world, every RPA combat air patrol requires the dedication of nearly 200 Airmen in various capacities. (U.S. Air Force photo/Tech. Sgt. Nadine Barclay)
Military.com | Nov 01, 2016 | by Oriana Pawlyk
The unmanned mission for the Air National Guard has become a sweet spot for airmen not only looking to maintain a part-time Air Force career, but also to develop their skills at a time when the service is making strides in drone capabilities, the head of the National Guard Bureau said.
"I saw many former F-16 units go kicking and screaming into the [MQ-1] Predator mission and now, almost, you can't go to one of these places [without them] telling you, 'We regret resisting this,' " Gen. Joseph Lengyel told defense reporters last week in Washington, D.C.
Lengyel said Air Force leaders worried at first about how the remotely piloted aircraft mission would impact airmen in the long term as they aimed to rapidly grow the drone field.
The service plans "to add 2,500-3,000 personnel to the [remotely piloted aircraft, or RPA] enterprise" as a whole through its Culture and Process Improvement Program, Air Combat Command spokesman Benjamin Newell told Military.com last month.
RELATED: Air Force Seeks to Change How Drone Pilots Train, Fly
"We've been able to build up the enterprise such that the quality of life, work schedules for our Guardsmen have been built in a more sustainable kind of … rhythm, working 12-hour days, six days a week," Lengyel said.
Lengyel cited units in Fargo, North Dakota, and Ellington Field in Houston as examples of recently transitioned units where "you'll see all those folks going to university at night, but flying Predator missions during the day."
But even that lifestyle may be on the cusp of an overhaul in the next few years.
"I think RPA in general is a growing industry, not just in defense, but automated, requiring less people to actually control an airborne platform … there will be more of that," he said.
"It's an insatiable product that it produces -- I don't know a single unit that isn't highly motivated and ready to do it."
More Automation (and Swarming)

Without disclosing details of how the service may start automating its drones, the why is clear: The demand for robotics is on the rise.
Air Force Col. Brandon Baker, chief of the remotely piloted aircraft capabilities division, last week said the service is investing in small unmanned aerial systems technologies to operate in a much different sphere "than RPA systems today."
He envisioned an Ender's Game-style battle, in which an airman -- nonaligned to a ground station -- would be able to control swarms of drones, "thousands of platforms at the wave of a hand."
"We're looking at something different, not man in the loop operations, but man on the loop operations, meaning our levels of autonomy and levels of cognition have to increase," Baker said during the Unmanned Systems Defense Conference outside Washington, D.C.
The Air Force reached out to the Defense Department's Defense Innovation Unit Experimental, or DIUX, in Silicon Valley to test the concept, he said.
"We're not going to be flying these airplanes, we're going to [be] orchestrating where these airplanes go, what they do," Baker said, adding that the service will need more individuals who are "air minded, folks who understand …. application of airpower" for these roles, especially when it comes to drone swarming in highly contested environments.
Marine Corps Lt. Gen. Robert Walsh, the service's commanding general for combat development, detailed a similar plan at last week's conference to incorporate swarming, or bringing in small unmanned aerial vehicles paired with underwater drones, unmanned surface vessels and underwater mine countermeasures, to storm areas -- either on land, air or sea -- in hopes it would not only slow down the enemy but save troops' lives.
RELATED: Drone Swarms to Storm Beaches: Marine General
"Instead of Marines being the first wave in, it'll be unmanned robotics … sensing, locating and maybe killing out front of those Marines," Walsh said. "We see that 'swarm-type' technology as exactly the type of thing -- it will lower cost, dominate the battlespace, leverage capabilities … and be able to complicate the problems for the enemy."
Echoing Walsh, Baker said, "We're seeing a lot of development in these areas. Manpower, efficiencies and the future for United States Air Force … has got to be baked in from the beginning. It's a must-have."

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Originally Posted by porcia83 (Post 12272400)

No doubt you've already begun that process. You've indicated you would be doing something similar in the past given your connections to politicians. I guess in your utopian safety world the AMA has a rep at every field ensuring compliance. Perhaps we can take the fees that Mike thinks kids should be charged to be part of AMA, and use those funds to pay for that program.

Am I exercising my right to engage elected officials and government agencies? Yes. Am I presenting them with real world examples of the risks? Yes. One needs look no further than the Markham field turbine flight to recognize the failure of self regulation. But it's particularly powerful when you can show video of a large helicopter making aggressive maneuvers toward an unprotected crowd at the AMA's own HQ field, and then couple that with a report of how a similar accident resulted in a fatality at a NY park. It's also powerful when video shows people diving for their safety at an event, an event where AMA safety standoffs were waived, with AMA executives in attendance. My point is that if "AMA members are not the problem" as the AMA has said so often, it would not be so darned easy to find these and other examples.

I just think legislators need to know that so they can make an informed decision.

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Originally Posted by franklin_m (Post 12273489)

By all means Franklin, enjoy your rights and do what you feel is best for you. If the AMA continues to ignore you, perhaps you'll get a response from the FAA or the politicians you seem to know. It's all good.

Has anyone gotten their hands on a Mavic Pro yet?

Well it looks like Disney can fly them at their parks now !

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/f...parks-43312753

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Originally Posted by flyinwalenda (Post 12274931)

Well it looks like Disney can fly them at their parks now !

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/f...parks-43312753

Commercial Operation under Part 107. It's pay to play on the commercial end now. The weird thing is the night operation but apparently there's a wavier for that also..

Mike

Wear your hardhat if you go to Disney at night !

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Originally Posted by rcmiket (Post 12275405)

https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/...ving-in-denver

Mike

All fine and good till the drone is autonomisand doesn't need any out side signal except GPS to navigate on an assigned route. It's already done with signal loss and return to home. There are also systems that can be programmed to use way points. No transmitter needed ounce launched.

Just saying for every for weapon system there is a counter measure to follow. Nothing made by man can not be defeated. Other wise we would need to replace Military hardware with newer and better all the time.

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Originally Posted by HoundDog (Post 12275428)

Really sad that playing with our toy airplanes has come down to this kinda thing.

Mike

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Originally Posted by rcmiket (Post 12275429)

Really sad that playing with our toy airplanes has come down to this kinda thing.

Mike

??? these are not toy airplanes. They are supposed to be photographic tools. They are not flown for the joy of flying.

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Originally Posted by Sport_Pilot (Post 12275433)

??? these are not toy airplanes. They are supposed to be photographic tools. They are not flown for the joy of flying.

That's why I don't understand why the AMA hasn't created any real separation.

astro

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Originally Posted by astrohog (Post 12275494)

That's why I don't understand why the AMA hasn't created any real separation.

astro

They don't have too! The FAA did that. Part 107 is commercial and 101 recreational.

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Originally Posted by Sport_Pilot (Post 12275495)

They don't have too! The FAA did that. Part 107 is commercial and 101 recreational.

You registered yet?

Mike

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[TD="class: yiv7994888203mcnTextContent"][h=2]6 Tips for Avoiding Phony Dronie Consultants and Attorneys[/h] [h=3]How to steer clear of the wrong hire for your drone business[/h] [h=4]By Jonathan Rupprecht, Esq. for Drone Analyst®[/h]It seems everyone is running toward the “drone” rush to make a quick buck. The way I see it is many of the consultants and attorneys assisting businesses with drone work are in reality experimenting on their clients. Many are unqualified in aviation but skilled in selling. Others have very questionable pasts that will not be mentioned in the marketing material.
Why is the drone industry attracting unqualified individuals? Here are some reasons:

newness of the industry
lack of organizations willing to do gate keeping at conferences
lack of reporters willing or knowledgeable enough to expose problems
few in the industry knowledgeable enough to understand the errors or seriousness of the situations
unwillingness to expose others because they themselves are somehow implicated

In light of these factors, you might need some help figuring out who NOT to hire. I outline six below.

Continue reading .............
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Drones have been around for years. It is only recently one could buy a fully assembled ready to fly drone. We didn't have problems until the retail market started selling ready to fly drones.
Ban ready made drones and your problems will be over.
Junkpilot

Yesterday I was in the local hobby shop (One of the few left) and an HS engendering teacher was discussing a project he was going to do with his students. More or less do video or something for the school. Sounded like they were going to receive compensation for this project. Anyway I asked him if he realized that he need a Federal License to fly anything RC in the USA over a half bound or under 55 lbs. then I stated that if it was going to be done for compensation of any kid he need a Drone Operators certificate and the only way was to take n on line course and pass a written FAA exam. Only then did the Hobby shop Owner even acknowledged that yes indeed that it was necessary to have a federal certificate to fly even RC toys. I don't think he was very happy with me. I told the Teacher to google FAR part 107 for more info. If hobby Shops would inform customers about the Federal regs on sUAS's DRONES I think we would have less problems.