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Originally Posted by ramboamt
(Post 12038497)
This one will probably go to jail while the other one was a Gov. (CIA) employee and got his wrist slapped.... SMH...
That said, intent is an important legal consideration. If they have evidence that the guy in today's incident deliberately flew over the White House fence, he may be more likely to face charges. The other guy was a long way away from the White House, and evidently had no intention of flying his Phantom over Obama's back yard. |
Originally Posted by JohnShe
(Post 12038380)
If a club flying field has been operating within 5 miles of an airport with no problems, I doubt that the airport could legitimately object to the field under the new law. The AMA is providing a resource to help flying fields to establish relationships with airports under the new law. I expect that the number of fields at risk of closure is closer to zero that you think.
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Originally Posted by ramboamt
(Post 12038497)
You mean this one: http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-re...181915886.html
This one will probably go to jail while the other one was a Gov. (CIA) employee and got his wrist slapped.... SMH... Goes with out saying: "U Just can't fix STUPID". |
I heard radio reports earlier today claim that it was a Model Airplane and not a drone or multi-rotor........
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It has been reported as a Parrot AR. Controlled by a tablet.
The offender was issued a misdemeanor citation. The news did not report what the citation was for or which authority is responsible for issuing the citation. It is not legal to fly a UAV in Washington D.C. |
The news in my area last night showed a red and black quad , kinda small looking , and they didn't show what was controlling it ...
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I think the bottom line is you and I both know you can't go around shooting at others people's property be RC models or otherwise without the potential of serious consequences. |
Originally Posted by init4fun
(Post 12038843)
The news in my area last night showed a red and black quad , kinda small looking , and they didn't show what was controlling it ...
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Yep...that should send chills down anyone's spine...that is if they have a spine...scares me just looking at the pictures! The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!
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Originally Posted by philakapd
(Post 12038825)
It has been reported as a Parrot AR. Controlled by a tablet.
The offender was issued a misdemeanor citation. The news did not report what the citation was for or which authority is responsible for issuing the citation. It is not legal to fly a UAV in Washington D.C. |
Originally Posted by littlecrankshaf
(Post 12038899)
Yep...that should send chills down anyone's spine...that is if they have a spine...scares me just looking at the pictures! The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!
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Originally Posted by littlecrankshaf
(Post 12038899)
Yep...that should send chills down anyone's spine...that is if they have a spine...scares me just looking at the pictures! The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!
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Nice to see a couple of strangers here ... It'all a barrel of laughs here. Well Sometimes.
There are currently 18 users browsing this thread. (13 members and 5 guests) Seems that there 6 Missing what happened? OH WELL no matter. |
Originally Posted by HoundDog
(Post 12038967)
Nice to see a couple of strangers here ... It'all a barrel of laughs here. Well Sometimes.
There are currently 18 users browsing this thread. (13 members and 5 guests) Seems that there 6 Missing what happened? OH WELL no matter. Thanks a lot for the publicity, HoundDog! ;) |
Originally Posted by N410DC
(Post 12038984)
I have here in my hand a list of 12 names, that were made known to the Federal Aviation Administration as being operators of unmanned aerial systems, in the federal airspace of the United States.
Thanks a lot for the publicity, HoundDog! ;) Cartersville, GA is so fare out in the Boondocks that it would take the FEDs a month of Sundays to even find it.I'd be more worried that they would find some of your Post's here on RCU and them taking offense. But U are Quite Welcome, Just the same LOL |
Originally Posted by Sport_Pilot
(Post 12038879)
In the city yes, but in urban areas you are allowed to fire your gun at model airplanes flying over your property and the model airplane pilot can be taken in for trespassing. Not that charges of trespassing are often brought.
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Sport.where did you see that information? |
From a full size aircraft forum. This is why I think quadcopters are the greatest risk to our hobby/sport to have come along thus far.
http://warbirdinformationexchange.or...hp?f=3&t=55888 |
Originally Posted by TimJ
(Post 12038551)
I heard radio reports earlier today claim that it was a Model Airplane and not a drone or multi-rotor........
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Originally Posted by Chad Veich
(Post 12039333)
From a full size aircraft forum. This is why I think quadcopters are the greatest risk to our hobby/sport to have come along thus far.
http://warbirdinformationexchange.or...hp?f=3&t=55888 |
Originally Posted by Sport_Pilot
(Post 12039668)
Have you forwarded that to the FAA? Only legal if permission is made by the airport, which I doubt. Not sure of FAA's position of model aircraft in clouds, but would suspect it will soon be illegal to be closer than 500 foot from a cloud when over 400 feet altitude.
It Looks like the weather was CAVU Clear And Visibility Unlimited. Ther were certinally many FAR's Safety Code and AMA rules broken here. prev | next § 91.155 Basic VFR weather minimums. (a) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section and § 91.157, no person may operate an aircraft under VFR when the flight visibility is less, or at a distance from clouds that is less, than that prescribed for the corresponding altitude and class of airspace in the following table: [TABLE="class: gpotable"] [TR] [TH]Airspace[/TH] [TH]Flight visibility[/TH] [TH]Distance from clouds[/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Class A[/TD] [TD]Not Applicable[/TD] [TD]Not Applicable.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Class B[/TD] [TD]3 statute miles[/TD] [TD]Clear of Clouds.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Class C[/TD] [TD]3 statute miles[/TD] [TD]500 feet below.1,000 feet above. 2,000 feet horizontal.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Class D[/TD] [TD]3 statute miles[/TD] [TD]500 feet below.1,000 feet above. 2,000 feet horizontal.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Class E:[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Less than 10,000 feet MSL[/TD] [TD]3 statute miles[/TD] [TD]500 feet below.1,000 feet above. 2,000 feet horizontal[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]At or above 10,000 feet MSL[/TD] [TD]5 statute miles[/TD] [TD]1,000 feet below.1,000 feet above. 1 statute mile horizontal.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Class G:[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]1,200 feet or less above the surface (regardless of MSL altitude)[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Day, except as provided in § 91.155(b)[/TD] [TD]1 statute mile[/TD] [TD]Clear of clouds.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Night, except as provided in § 91.155(b)[/TD] [TD]3 statute miles[/TD] [TD]500 feet below.1,000 feet above. 2,000 feet horizontal.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]More than 1,200 feet above the surface but less than 10,000 feet MSL[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Day[/TD] [TD]1 statute mile[/TD] [TD]500 feet below.1,000 feet above. 2,000 feet horizontal.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Night[/TD] [TD]3 statute miles[/TD] [TD]500 feet below.1,000 feet above. 2,000 feet horizontal.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]More than 1,200 feet above the surface and at or above 10,000 feet MSL[/TD] [TD]5 statute miles[/TD] [TD]1,000 feet below.1,000 feet above. 1 statute mile horizontal.[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] (b) Class G Airspace. Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraph (a) of this section, the following operations may be conducted in Class G airspace below 1,200 feet above the surface: |
Part 91 doesn't really apply to model airplanes. It only apply's to airplanes with people on board, as mentioned in the recent NPRM. But that NPRM does not include model aircraft. However, I think it can be classified as endangerment to the NAS by impeding the FPV pilot's capability to see and avoid. Then again perhaps the model airplane can be considered a UAV under the proposed NPRM because it was operated in FPV mode violating the AMA's safety code.
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Originally Posted by Sport_Pilot
(Post 12039760)
Part 91 doesn't really apply to model airplanes. It only apply's to airplanes with people on board, as mentioned in the recent NPRM. But that NPRM does not include model aircraft. However, I think it can be classified as endangerment to the NAS by impeding the FPV pilot's capability to see and avoid. Then again perhaps the model airplane can be considered a UAV under the proposed NPRM because it was operated in FPV mode violating the AMA's safety code.
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I don't think we know he did not have a spotter, or did I miss something? Good assumption though.
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