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ElectriMan 12-11-2021 01:57 PM

Don't know if I would call anyone here "Dethpicable" but you are all pathetic and I feel sorry for you because you can not do anything except find faults with one another. Life is too short to argue over senseless things as you all do. Today I was reading some of what John Wesley wrote, such as “I exact more from myself, and less from others. Go thou and do likewise!” you should do the same.

Propworn 12-11-2021 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by astrohog (Post 12706530)
No, you did not, it was speculation on my part based on your statements on these threads over the last few years. You have made strong statements like, "Why would the AMA put up with his crap?". It is pretty easy to see what the intent of a statement like that is. I'll break it down for you: A member pays dues and follows the rules, there is zero recourse AMA can take on said member. The only other option is to assume it is your opinion that if an organization simply doesn't like somebody, they actually have the power to expel them. Again, pretty simple.

You've made a lot of statements here lately using the disclaimer, "pure speculation on my part" followed by some wild concoction of your imagination, with zero basis in reality. Do you REALLY believe that is any different than what you claim is "cherry picking" and "putting false words in someone's mouth"? C'mon, man!

Astro

I think you need to check, the AMA is a private dues collecting organization. Your membership is an application which can be refused. And I still don't know why they put up with this crap except you guys must be so far down the We Dont Give a Shid list its just easier to ignore you. Which after all might be the best policy.

astrohog 12-11-2021 03:26 PM

I'm relieved you didn't find fault with us and were compelled to share your sorrow. I'll sleep much better tonight.

Astro

franklin_m 12-11-2021 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by ElectriMan (Post 12706532)
Don't know if I would call anyone here "Dethpicable" but you are all pathetic and I feel sorry for you because you can not do anything except find faults with one another. Life is too short to argue over senseless things as you all do. Today I was reading some of what John Wesley wrote, such as “I exact more from myself, and less from others. Go thou and do likewise!” you should do the same.

Invoking a theologian, who flouted many of the existing regulations of the church in which he belonged, in order to insult others is hardly compelling.

astrohog 12-11-2021 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by Propworn (Post 12706543)
And I still don't know why they put up with this crap .

Care to extrapolate, or is this another of your vague statements that you hope we will guess what you mean and then dance around and claim, "I never said that". Why don't you just specifically list the egregious actions you think deserve to be used as a basis to be put on the AMA's, "we don't give a shid" list, or used to discriminately be denied membership?

Astro

ElectriMan 12-11-2021 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by franklin_m (Post 12706548)
Invoking a theologian, who flouted many of the existing regulations of the church in which he belonged, in order to insult others is hardly compelling.


OK.

Carry on.

astrohog 12-11-2021 09:42 PM

buh bye.

BarracudaHockey 12-12-2021 06:01 AM

To answer the question on the floor, without the need to divulge any private information I have access to.

The members only documents that get referred to are only accessible to logins with current membership

ElectriMan 12-12-2021 06:24 AM

Answer to question in next post:

Because nothing is private no matter what you may think.




franklin_m 12-12-2021 08:59 AM

Why would someone share another person's information in a thread w/o asking them first?

franklin_m 12-12-2021 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by ElectriMan (Post 12706604)
Answer to question in next post:

Because nothing is private no matter what you may think.

I see that you've edited the above post to remove the personally identifiable information you posted in this thread w/o my permission. Thankfully, after the 31st it won't matter, as that number will be no longer applicable.

It speaks volumes about the character of an individual who:
- Quotes theologians to try and establish some moral authority, and
- Then posts in this forum personally identifiable information about others to either attempt to intimidate or in retaliation

Propworn 12-12-2021 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by BarracudaHockey (Post 12706594)
To answer the question on the floor, without the need to divulge any private information I have access to.

The members only documents that get referred to are only accessible to logins with current membership

So just wondering that if someone gave his info and password would it be possible for a non member to log in to the members only area? Or would a member be able to cut and paste this info and share with other non members?

astrohog 12-12-2021 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by franklin_m (Post 12706621)
Why would someone share another person's information in a thread w/o asking them first?

speedy has done the same thing, it’s another example of narcissistic behavior.

Astro

ElectriMan 12-12-2021 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by franklin_m (Post 12706638)

I see that you've edited the above post to remove the personally identifiable information you posted in this thread w/o my permission. Thankfully, after the 31st it won't matter, as that number will be no longer applicable.

It will remain applicable whether you renew or not.


Originally Posted by franklin_m (Post 12706638)

It speaks volumes about the character of an individual who:
- Quotes theologians to try and establish some moral authority

I don’t claim to be moral but it is fascinating that after 250 years that theologian is still being quoted. Do you think anything you have written here will be remembered for very long?


Originally Posted by franklin_m (Post 12706638)

It speaks volumes about the character of an individual who:
- Then posts in this forum personally identifiable information about others to either attempt to intimidate or in retaliation

The question of your membership came up a while back. This was intended to help you remember.

franklin_m 12-12-2021 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by astrohog (Post 12706641)
speedy has done the same thing, it’s another example of narcissistic behavior.

Astro

Yeah, and I see in post #89 there's now an "explanation." Some are trying to equate age of quotes with wisdom, or contend that the only measure of wisdom is age of quotes. I think there's ample evidence neither is true, so not sure what purpose it serves except perhaps to rationalize the behavior. To the point of saying they did it to help me remember? Yeah right.

speedracerntrixie 12-12-2021 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by astrohog (Post 12706641)
speedy has done the same thing, it’s another example of narcissistic behavior.

Astro


Care to show proof of that accusation or are you just running your mouth again? You seem to have the habit of convincing yourself that everything you say is true. How about actually backing this one up with some proof.

astrohog 12-12-2021 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie (Post 12706649)
Care to show proof of that accusation or are you just running your mouth again? You seem to have the habit of convincing yourself that everything you say is true. How about actually backing this one up with some proof.

I’m not going back to look it up. You know, I know and everybody that has been active in these threads know it’s there. You’ve acknowledged doing it . Pretty sad that you are now asking me for proof. Just another example of how you play games on these forums. Sad.

Astro

astrohog 12-12-2021 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by ElectriMan (Post 12706642)
The question of your membership came up a while back. This was intended to help you remember.

This is absolute and utter BS. And you know it. Sad.

Astro

ElectriMan 12-12-2021 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by Propworn (Post 12706513)
So no more two step are you a current AMA member or not a simple yes or no should suffice.


Originally Posted by franklin_m (Post 12706516)
The beauty of my country is that I don' have to answer your question if I choose not to answer.


Originally Posted by Propworn (Post 12706525)
Absolutely I'm just wondering if your someone with a stake in the organization or like a few other none members on here just outsiders throwing feces at the door.


Originally Posted by franklin_m (Post 12706526)
Well, you can just keep wondering.

I, on the other hand, will continue to expend my discretionary time as I see fit.


Originally Posted by ElectriMan (Post 12706642)

The question of your membership came up a while back. This was intended to help you remember.


Originally Posted by astrohog (Post 12706656)
This is absolute and utter BS. And you know it. Sad.

Astro


BS?

It can't be sad because I have been laughing all along and I am laughing now as well.

speedracerntrixie 12-12-2021 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by astrohog (Post 12706655)
I’m not going back to look it up. You know, I know and everybody that has been active in these threads know it’s there. You’ve acknowledged doing it . Pretty sad that you are now asking me for proof. Just another example of how you play games on these forums. Sad.

Astro

Cant say I’m surprised by this reply. Others make claims and you demand proof, you make claims and can’t be bothered with backing them up. Then claim to know what knowledge others have. I suggest you don’t make statements you can’t back up, could prove to be costly. Just ask Labron James. Take a lesson from you beloved, he knows I caught him lying and has been ignoring my claims because he knows I have the proof to back up my claim.

astrohog 12-12-2021 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie (Post 12706667)
Cant say I’m surprised by this reply. Others make claims and you demand proof, you make claims and can’t be bothered with backing them up. Then claim to know what knowledge others have. I suggest you don’t make statements you can’t back up, could prove to be costly. Just ask Labron James. Take a lesson from you beloved, he knows I caught him lying and has been ignoring my claims because he knows I have the proof to back up my claim.

Are you denying that you’ve posted others’ personal info in the past?

Astro

speedracerntrixie 12-12-2021 01:39 PM

How long did it take you to figure that out? The only time I have been accused of posting personal information was by Franklin after he got booted out of RCG the first time. I asked for proof then and he failed to do so. I posted a picture thought to be Hydro however that picture was taken off a social media site and was a profile picture so fair game. It turned out not to be him and if you recall ( I doubt it, you seem to have memory issues ) I did ask the mods to remove the picture.

astrohog 12-12-2021 02:12 PM

Oh geez, give me a break! You tried to post someone’s personal information, but actually mistakenly posted incorrect information. You’re going to hide behind the fact you screwed up your attempt to claim innocence? LOL

Sad.

Astro


speedracerntrixie 12-12-2021 02:34 PM

Nice try but as I said a picture taken off someone’s profile is fair game. If it had been him then his name would have gotten out. BFD. I realize that there are some of you who talk a big game but are too cowardly to want your actual name posted but not everyone feels the need to hide behind a keyboard. Your Beloved uses his own name ( most of the time ), I can respect him for at least that.

astrohog 12-12-2021 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie (Post 12706678)
Nice try but as I said a picture taken off someone’s profile is fair game. If it had been him then his name would have gotten out. BFD. I realize that there are some of you who talk a big game but are too cowardly to want your actual name posted but not everyone feels the need to hide behind a keyboard. Your Beloved uses his own name ( most of the time ), I can respect him for at least that.

Maybe in your world. To me it shows a complete lack of respect for others. Kind of like repeatedly airing dirty laundry from other sites. It’s in bad taste and is childish. What does Franklin’s picture have to do with what he posts here? Justify it how you want, it speaks volumes about your character and what your true motives are, here in the forums.

You claim is that some are, “too cowardly” to post our real names, but in reality, it is just common sense. These forums profit from the information we provide here, and scammers prey on these sites, why in the world would I put any more personal information here than is necessary? LOL. Unlike you, I do not thrive on my online, toy airplane persona.

Astro


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