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Model Aviation and Accident Prevention - Absurd
Got my new MA and discovered no less than 5 pictures of some idiot holding a tachometer in front a prop turning 10+ K rpm...[:o]
It's ridiculous that the editors would allow pictures of such negligent behaviour be published in their official publication. Might as well be showing pics of rotor touches and that guy kissing a 40% plane in a hover.......:eek: |
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Good point!
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ROFLOL!
This is from the SAME editor who put a stop the the "Safety Comes First" column. What a joke. I guess we cannot have our safety any place but in the regulations some want to force off on all of us. How sick. |
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" do not do as i do, do as i say do"
words the ama lives by. |
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I too caught that asinine move. If there is anyone in the world who knows better than to get infront of a rotating prop with a tach it's ME. Thanks to a rotating 20 X 8 APC prop on a G-38 that pulled the firewall loose and jumped into my thumb, severing it from my somewhat mangled hand, I learned my lesson. Only took 100 or so stitches to close up all the openings. Now I gotta hitch hike left handed.
The bad part is they were talking about full throttle rev's. Man that was stupid. |
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Jim Ross. your story is a tragic reminder that safety is the most important part of our hobby. My sympathies for your injury.
It points out two important factors. 1)NEVER trust any kind of machinery whether a model aircraft or any other contrivance. 2) a need for thorough inspection of (in our case engine and airframe) like in full scale preflight. I also accept the fact that there may be some cases that it might not be possible. as a thought, I also fly large gas engine models and all the firewalls are pinned and supported by angle braces.(over kill) safety out weighs any weight penalty. I think the intent of the safety/video from what I've heard and read will attempt to address similiar issues. Again sorry to hear of what must have been a very painful injury. |
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Actually it didn't hurt at all until about four hours later. Then I was BEGGING for drugs. I really am a crybaby when it comes to removing body parts traumatically.
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I bet, in the interest of "SAFETY", they didn't show the person(s) reaching around the prop to adjuct the needle/mixture and get the tach reading up to snuff. Then of course to read the RPM the pilot probably had to remove his hand from the wing (the only restraint on the aircraft), reach back in front of the airplane to throttle up and make his tach check. After the tach checks were complete, they probably went for a leisurly flight over the pits and parking areas, which, I am sure, was much to the delight of the fellow club members and spectators. This of course all culminated in the famous "OOPS, I FORGOT TO CHARGE THE BATTERIES, I DON'T HAVE IT!!!!!!" one point landing, right in front of one of the occupied pilot stations at the flightline.
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D Remember, AMA is all about safety. I think that the MA editors and Staff should print an apology (full sheet) in the next issue, for showing such blatantly improper procedures as far as safety is concerned. Jay L. |
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No matter how safe you are ,Murphy seems to get involved. Alway's remember that it don't just happen to the other guy it could happen to you! And some times there is not a thing you can do about it. and don't ask!
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Outlaw, there is no argument to that.
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ORIGINAL: headshot SNIP Remember, AMA is all about safety. I think that the MA editors and Staff should print an apology (full sheet) in the next issue, for showing such blatantly improper procedures as far as safety is concerned. Jay L. Second! |
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Did you also notice a couple of pictures of the tach from behind the prop?
Jerry |
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Here's my thoughts.....
After losing that column and the Microhenry's even the cat won't touch my issues of MA. No amount of rules and regulations will prevent idiots from screwing something up. One type a law that all lawyers need to be required to practice is Murphy's law. Then again, if they did, there would be no lawsuits. ORIGINAL: Jim Branaum ROFLOL! This is from the SAME editor who put a stop the the "Safety Comes First" column. What a joke. I guess we cannot have our safety any place but in the regulations some want to force off on all of us. How sick. |
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Isn't this part II of the series on engines, remember the first part had to be re-written because basically his theory was all wrong and the conclusions he drew from them.
I just got mine today and the first thing I noticed was - why hold a tach in front of an engine when it works just as well from behind, plus the fact if you adjust the needle it puts you on the same side of the prop that way. |
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I also saw a number of adds for Tachs that show them holding them in right in front of the engine. I don't see a problem when using them at a distance, but people being people, somebody will think they have to get right up to the prop with the thing and blammo, they got it in the prop.
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scottrc,
Jim Ross did not run the tach into the prop and loose the end of his thumb and damage the rest of his hand. The firewall came out of the fuse! It is amazing the number of firewalls that have come out of the ARF fuses lately. Props can also get thrown from the engine and get your hand, chest, throat, eye, etc. I do not think that there is any reason to be in front of a running engine, except when starting. |
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Or, for that matter, within or reaching through the prop-arc. I know I do this in combat just removing the glow ignitor. I am trying to break the habit, but with a timed start, sometimes common sense things like that slip my mind. I am starting to make a point of practicing walking around behind my starting stand and removing the ignitor. I use a remote needle facing backward from the prop arc, so adjustments are made from well behind the meat grinder.
Jay |
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ALL it takes is one trip to the ER to have your mangled hand and thumb put back together to remind you not to do that any more. Luckily, I can still use my right hand, albeit with a shorter thumb, but it came very near to costing me much more than a thumb joint. Had that prop hit my wrist instead of my thumb I would be called Stumpy now. A 20 X 8 Apc turning at 9K+ will EAT YOU! Go ahead ask me how I know and I'll send you the very graphic pictures of what it can do. All I want to see is every one of you guys be able to continue the sport without joining me in the Whacked Club.
ORIGINAL: headshot Or, for that matter, within or reaching through the prop-arc. I know I do this in combat just removing the glow ignitor. I am trying to break the habit, but with a timed start, sometimes common sense things like that slip my mind. I am starting to make a point of practicing walking around behind my starting stand and removing the ignitor. I use a remote needle facing backward from the prop arc, so adjustments are made from well behind the meat grinder. Jay |
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I can imagine, It would probably be just as bad, or worse with a 9x5 APC turning 18,500+.
That's why I am making a concerted effort to change my ways. Don't want anymore needless injuries, I am already clumsy enough!!!:D:D Jay L. |
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God Bless you and keep you safe. I hope you NEVER find out how bad it can be. Just think of me each time you go to reach over that prop, maybe it will scare you bad enough to prevent it from happening to you.
JimRoss ORIGINAL: headshot I can imagine, It would probably be just as bad, or worse with a 9x5 APC turning 18,500+. That's why I am making a concerted effort to change my ways. Don't want anymore needless injuries, I am already clumsy enough!!!:D:D Jay L. |
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Hey Jim, that is one irritating avatar
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That photo must have been taken right after the prop hit his hand...
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Hi Jim!
When I started this thread, I was thinking of your accident. I met you at Jetero during the last fun-fly. I introduced myself to you by showing you my scars. I stuck my right hand through a 14x6 Prop turning about 6K on a Saito 91 back in September. I had about a hundred stitches and still have two screws in my thumb from it. Spent an hour in surgery, a night in the hospital, and three months in physical therapy. I was adjusting a needle from the front quarter on a bi-plane on one of those "safety stands" (I do not like these because they put the prop at waist/hand level, but that's another subject) and just got careless and just grazed the prop tips. My first thought when it hit me was was "whew, that was a close one". Then I looked down and could see my thumb knuckle and bones and then we went to the hospital. I know what I did was just plain dumb, but I'll tell the story to anyone who'll listen if it keeps just one person from experiencing this type of accident. Richard |
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Thank you and I hope you are healing well. My accident was from lack of intelligence, dumbass mistake, stupidity, or whatever you want to call it. Just the same I got bit and so did you. Maybe together we can convince the remaining boneheads that do this sort of stuff to QUIT IT! Behind the prop is good, In front of the prop is BAD!
Hope you have regained the use of the hand ok and can fly again. JimRoss ORIGINAL: rwlewis Hi Jim! When I started this thread, I was thinking of your accident. I met you at Jetero during the last fun-fly. I introduced myself to you by showing you my scars. I stuck my right hand through a 14x6 Prop turning about 6K on a Saito 91 back in September. I had about a hundred stitches and still have two screws in my thumb from it. Spent an hour in surgery, a night in the hospital, and three months in physical therapy. I was adjusting a needle from the front quarter on a bi-plane on one of those "safety stands" (I do not like these because they put the prop at waist/hand level, but that's another subject) and just got careless and just grazed the prop tips. My first thought when it hit me was was "whew, that was a close one". Then I looked down and could see my thumb knuckle and bones and then we went to the hospital. I know what I did was just plain dumb, but I'll tell the story to anyone who'll listen if it keeps just one person from experiencing this type of accident. Richard |
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Thanks Frank,
It didn't start out that way. One of the nice guys here took it and morphed it for me. It looked so bad I decided to keep it. JimRoss ORIGINAL: frankflyboy1 Hey Jim, that is one irritating avatar |
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