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Underaged Pilot 09-13-2004 10:05 PM

Rocket gliders
 
I was wondering would this break the rules if so can I get permits and how much will they cost

rw Guinn 09-13-2004 10:23 PM

RE: Rocket gliders
 

ORIGINAL: Underaged Pilot

I was wondering would this break the rules if so can I get permits and how much will they cost
Nice troll---
Not much info here. What is it you want to do?

There are plans for several rocket-boost RC airplanes. Nothing wrong with them at all.

Firing rockets from you airplane might cost your dad a few thousands of $$ if you cause damage, since that would kick-in an exclusion from AMA insurance. The local AMA club would probably kick you off their field if you launched from an airborn airplane.

If you start a big fire, you could be liable for the put-out cost in most States.

mr_matt 09-13-2004 11:05 PM

RE: Rocket gliders
 
But the way I read the rules if they are RC (controlled in flight) rockets you can fire them from a plane, just like you can drop an RC rocket plane off of a mother plane

Underaged Pilot 09-13-2004 11:24 PM

RE: Rocket gliders
 
from a ground launch

rw Guinn 09-13-2004 11:27 PM

RE: Rocket gliders
 

ORIGINAL: mr_matt

But the way I read the rules if they are RC (controlled in flight) rockets you can fire them from a plane, just like you can drop an RC rocket plane off of a mother plane
I think I said Rocket Boost RC is OK--but check with the local club. They may have other ideas.

I also said Firing Rockets from your RC could trigger an exclusion. Didn't say anything about dropping.

Gordon Mc 09-14-2004 08:57 AM

RE: Rocket gliders
 
Several years ago, Bob Parks designed and kitted some very successful rocket powered gliders. Dunno if they are still available.

Gordon

mr_matt 09-14-2004 09:04 AM

RE: Rocket gliders
 

ORIGINAL: rw Guinn


I also said Firing Rockets from your RC could trigger an exclusion. Didn't say anything about dropping.

Let me try again.

I believe you can FIRE a rocket off of an RC plane, if the rocket is under independant RC control. Cause under this definition it is an RC plane that is rocket powered and that is OK in the rules.



As to the original question..

There are many rules restrictions of model rockets especially in the west, so you will need to find a place that is suitable to fly. So a specific location might need a permit, but in general you do not need one. THe AMA offers pretty good insurance that is cheap, 58 bucks per year for 2.5 million. BTW there are limits to the size of the motor allowed under AMA rules.

J_R 09-14-2004 09:37 AM

RE: Rocket gliders
 
The AMA Safety Code, General Rule #7 addresses rocket powered models.

The National Model Rocketry Safety Code is here: http://www.nar.org/NARmrsc.html

If you still have questions after reading them, Carl Maroney,AMA Special Services, at AMA headquarters is your best source of answers.

scottrc 09-15-2004 07:30 AM

RE: Rocket gliders
 
Depends on the design. Dumas, Cox, Estes, Edmunds Scientific are some manufacturers that make ARF rocket gliders. These fire off like a standard rocket and then you fly them down like a normal glider. As long as they are powered by a commercial class C engine, normal AMA rules apply. However, because they do require a standard launch platform, some clubs may not be equiped or experienced to handle these types of gliders and may not let you fly them unless you have some experience.

Being in California, you should have access to a number of NAR and Tripoli clubs in the area. These are the guys you want to talk with. They have a membership system like AMA, and also can hook you up with clubs that will assist you in training, and if you really want to get into the hi-tech stuff, get you the proper certifications.

Scott

Underaged Pilot 09-15-2004 05:30 PM

RE: Rocket gliders
 
cox and estes is the same company

vicman 09-15-2004 08:32 PM

RE: Rocket gliders
 
PM me with your e-mail addy. I think I have a PDF you would like to have.:D


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