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AMA Executive Council
Meeting Motions/Acclamations
July 16, 2006
Muncie, Indiana

Note: Tony Stillman, District V VP was not in attendance.

It was moved, seconded and approved by acclamation to approve the minutes of the April 29, 2006 Council meeting.

It was moved, seconded and approved by acclamation to accept the report of the Nominating Committee. The 2006 ballot will include the following candidates:
District II – Dave Mathewson (incumbent);
District IV – Bliss Teague (incumbent);
District VI – Charlie Bauer (incumbent);
District VIII – Guy Barber, Lawrence Harville, James Rice;
District X – Rich Hanson (incumbent).



It was moved, seconded and approved by acclamation to accept the report and make the awards as specified in the Scholarship Committee Report.

It was moved, seconded and approved by acclamation that AMA sunset the event known as Grand Event and replace it with the “Take Off and Grow” program, with the stipulation that if the club in California wishes to run the Grand Event in 2007 they will have the opportunity to do so.

Motion I: Moved by R. Hanson (X) and seconded by D. Mathewson (II) that the President create a committee to deal with the loss of membership. This committee will receive funding of $15,000.
Motion passed unanimously.

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Guess the EC did a lot at this meeting. There are a number of subtle messages in that report. However one that is NOT SUBTLE in any way is that :

If you reside in either AMA District II, IV, VI, or X then you must be either totally happy with AMA top-management and AMA itself because you contributed nothing -- that is ZERO -- to obtaining any change.

YOU have actually forfeited your right to complain.

"Committee to deal with the loss of membership" ?? [:-][:'(][sm=drowning.gif] Just what the _ell is the Executive Committee itself? Guess the EC will be SECOND PLACE which is simply the FIRST LOSER! [>:]

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I just got here (1MA recieved so far), um, what do I have to do to secure my right to complain?
I havent gotten any kind of Application for Complaint from the ama, so maybe you can tell me how to avoid forfeiture in the future.

Write a letter to someone & hope they dont ignore it?
I havent been made aware of any candidate for anything that wants my vote.
Did I miss a vote in the last month?

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You're in District VIII. Not applicable.

Get into how AMA operates and learn the rules. (Joking of course) -- if you find out how AMA operates, tell the EC and write a manual for the membership.

You're already ignored. Abandon hope!

You have not been paying attention, have you? Lots of info about all that in the past few months in this forum. You have missed a lot and I expect you will miss the vote in which you have 3 choices. :eek:

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Do not worry, Kid. You and I live in the district which has three candidates for VP. Meaning, of course, that someone was active enough to nominate a candidate.

If you have purchased any Hobby Supplies or equipment, the proper way, and are a bit frugal, you already know the correct person for the job.

To Hoss,

And now that the SIGS are in control of contest rules, even the real AMA members aren't much interested in the EC.

Before someone does a rage on me, I haven't participated in a rulebook event since 1960.

But then, you probably expected a few candidates in District VIII, even if the incumbent had decided to run again. It is no surprise to me that all three candidates are from Texas. That just Texan.

Ken Erickson
San Antonio
"I wasn't born in Texas, but I got here as soon as I could."

Then I had to move for Corporate America, but I made it back.

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Looks like the AMA is functioning properly. The incumbents are people I supported so I have no complaints. Now, if I were a loser I'd probably whine abit too.

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Must have taken them at least 5 minutes, with allowance for geriatric influences. Oh well, Munchie is no place to be in the middle of July. Or Aug, Nov thru Apr, et al.

Only news is that Rich Hanson is hanging in for another term. Thought he had said he would retire. Look like Sandy Frank meant it though, so there is some good non-news. Don't gloat because you are in D-VIII; only ways an incumbent leaves AMA office is by his choice or The Almighty's.

So $15K to prevent the loss of members....... That's about 300 members worth. Hope they at least break even on this venture. How would anyone measure whether or not they did? Seems a less ambitious goal than growing the membership, but perhaps more realistic. More attainable objectives may be a lesson learned from DB's ten objectives for his administration set when he took office. One was to spend a lot of $$$ on Muncie. That is the one that was met.

Abel

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.... [:o]
Originally, I had issues with term limits. But, it seems that Griffen dropped out as soon as he heard that Hanson is staying. Why? I just hope that means Hanson has the time, this year.

A Membership committee, eh? Not sure what to think on that one. It's too easy to make jokes.
When you have a problem, it can be solved in 3 easy steps:
1: Create a committee to specifically handle the problem.
2: Throw a little money at it and watch it fail.
3: Blame the committee. It was THEIR job after all. Less weight on your shoulders.

Let's see if anything comes of it.

- Jim

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Ok, I guess I'll talk with the guys at the club this weekend,
but seems I know who to vote for (thanx Ken), I just need to grill him for his stand on the things I care about.

I'll get back to you on this after I get the skinny from the guys at the club.
Thanx for the heads-up on the whole voting thing Hoss, I'd hate to have to stop complaining:)

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Does anyone know where to find the vote count for the previous elections? I want to unseat Bliss with a write in and I'm going to do it as best I can. Anyone want to run in D-IV? I don't have anything against Bliss, I just never hear anything from him and I know the AMA needs new blood, so he must go IMO.


Thanks,
50%

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You may want to find a way to get this real life picture of yourself removed from FlyingGiants website before you begin your campaign. Your competition might want to use this to their advantage.

Or at the very least figure out a way to photoshop out your shoes and socks, the rest is just fine.

Good luck!

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I'm not running. I can't run due to my signature on a contract with the USAF. However, I will do my best to help a person if they want to run as a write in.



50%

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D-IV here, I have never had a problem with Bliss. He has always taken time from his flying afternoon/time to discuss anything anyone wanted to talke about.

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Well I'm sure he'll really want you as their campaign mgr with photos of yourself like that floating around the web. SCANDAL!!! :D

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YIKES! Talk about a wedgie.

I doubt swapping these guys out will make any difference whatsoever. I would like to see POSITIVE change in the AMA. Not just change for the sake of change.

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Well I'm glad to see that we have 3 choices here in D8. I'm hoping that all 3 chime in here and give us the chance to see where they stand. I know Guy Barber and he's a pretty square guy and knows all aspects of our sport. I don't know much about the other gents but I would like to hear from them. Thanks for stepping up.

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The term committee is loosely used for varying groups. There is a narrower definition which defines a committee as a fact finding body, not an action body. The committee job is to produce a report which says these are the major causes of people dropping out of the AMA. Then what is needed is not a committee, but an action team. This team's function is to determine what to do about it, and implement programs to lower drop out rate. You might have some of the same people on both the committee and the action team, but they would be wearing different hats.

Committees get a bad rep because some do not carry out their fact finding function, and, more commonly, in many other cases the committee does its job, but no action team, or an ineffective team, is formed to act on the committee's findings.

There was a serious study, published back in the '30's, which found the most efficient size for a committee to be 1.6 people.

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Although I dont know this for sure I would assume that most of the members the AMA
are looseing are leaving the hobby, I just dont see how a lot of people can find a place
to fly without being an AMA member.

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In the AMA lexicon, I don't recall ever seeing a distinction made between committee and action team. Also per AMA doctrine, all committees serve at the pleasure of the President. So much for acting on the committees findings. If findings aren't what DB wants to hear, the resulting action is to dismiss/retire the committee. We've seen that too many times during the current administration to reasonably conclude otherwise.

Abel

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LOL. That's straight out of Dilbert Land. I find it amusing that in most businesses, I hear of alot of committees, but very few action teams. Anyhow, I'm guessing the AMA Member committee will be spending a lot of time reading these forums! :) A lot of what they're looking for can be found here.

@ira d: Many of the members who felt "forced" to join AMA just to use the flying field have now discovered parkflyers. I've dropped to parkflyers so I'm not restricted to flying just at the flying sites, but I've maintained my AMA. Many haven't.

Hmmmmm...this could be interesting. Pardon me, but I'm going to stir the pot a little at rcgroups. That's where the majority of the non-members are, anyways.

- Jim

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Well in the year 2006 it seems that the only way form any type of commitee requires 15,000 greenbacks. Isn't America great ... land of opportunity baby!!!!

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D VII for me and thank goodness that Franky got the hint.


New D 8 person better stay on their toes or me and Hoss are gonna let them know about it.

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I have no doubt that regardless of who the new D8 person is or whatever they do, Hoss and people like him will tell them they aren't getting it right.

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Regardless of who the new D8 person is, odds strongly favor an improvement.

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You should read the D8 column every month. It's the funniest thing I've ever seen.

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I know what you mean all the time and effort put into it. Calling that a column is kind at best!