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Bob Mitchell 08-28-2008 01:38 AM

Mark Smith??
 
RCKen,

Has Mark given you any indication of whether he will participate here?

RCKen 08-28-2008 06:31 AM

RE: Mark Smith??
 


ORIGINAL: Bob Mitchell

RCKen,

Has Mark given you any indication of whether he will participate here?
Bob,
Mark did contact via email a couple of days ago. He said he's out of town this week. But when he gets home on Monday he's going to call me and we'll talk more about getting him set up. I'll keep you posted on this issue.

Ken

F106A 08-28-2008 08:55 AM

RE: Mark Smith??
 
Bob,
I'm curious, if and when Mark comes on RCU, are you going to go after him with the same zeal that you're going after Hoss, or is it just a Hoss 'thing.
BRG,
Jon

Kemosobie 08-28-2008 10:26 AM

RE: Mark Smith??
 
Mark Smith for EVP. Vote Mark Smith

Kemosobie 08-28-2008 11:07 AM

RE: Mark Smith??
 
Jon,
Bob simply challenges Mr Cain on some his(Mr Cain) statements. I see nothing wrong with that.





Mark Smith for EVP

KidEpoxy 08-28-2008 11:21 AM

RE: Mark Smith??
 

Bob simply challenges Mr Cain on some his(Mr Cain) statements
Do we expect that to happen to Mark as well?

If hounding for specifics to general answers is acceptable,
I'd love to get the details from Mark on a variety of subjects from Paintball to Senior Discount,
and perhaps a few questions to get the gritty details about MA, & the parkie mag

STLPilot 08-28-2008 11:50 AM

RE: Mark Smith??
 


ORIGINAL: KidEpoxy
I'd love to get the details from Mark on a variety of subjects from Paintball to Senior Discount,
and perhaps a few questions to get the gritty details about MA, & the parkie mag
And what makes these questions any different then we asked Hoss? Most of the questions I've been asking him are the ones he's been complaining about the most. I for one would like to know what his feeling are about how he intends to fix the communication issue at the AMA. Well he says he won't hold back any secrets if he becomes President ... but sure is showing a bad example of it now, specifically as to why he wants a zip code and never once said he would only take questions from AMA members.

F106A 08-28-2008 01:23 PM

RE: Mark Smith??
 
Hi,
I have no problems with him asking questions, but surely he knows that any politician will not get into specifics. This is nothing new; when Nixon was running for President he had a plan to get us out of Viet Nam called “Peace with honor”. When he was pressed for details, he said that when he’s elected he’ll reveal the plan. This type of response has been going on since the beginnig of politics, so Hoss not getting into details should not be surprising.
I asked the question because, like Hoss or not, he’s been here and has numerous postings; everybody has an idea of where he stands on issues. However, it doesn’t seem like these posters are all that upset that they can’t question Mark about the same issues.
If I were Mark, I wouldn’t come on RCU for the simple fact that the vast majority of AMA members could care less about this election, in fact, I’d be surprised if 5% vote. With Hoss getting hammered by STL, Bob and a few others, I’d just stay above the fray and hope that Hoss gets hammered enough so I’d get the” I don’t want Hoss so I guess I’ll vote for the other guy” vote.
BRG,
Jon

Bob Mitchell 08-28-2008 01:58 PM

RE: Mark Smith??
 


ORIGINAL: F106A

Bob,
I'm curious, if and when Mark comes on RCU, are you going to go after him with the same zeal that you're going after Hoss, or is it just a Hoss 'thing.
BRG,
Jon
The questions I've asked were originally asked of both candidates, posted in the AMA forum before there was any discussion of a candidates sub-forum

If Mark refuses to discuss his detailed plans becuse he thinks Horrace willl somehow use that against him;

If he makes the same type of contradictory remarks concerning his position on PPP;

If he refuses to discuss his leadership style and why that will or won't make him an effective EVP,

If he refuses to discuss any plans for increasing member involvement as a way to strengthen AMA and instead suggests that he doesn't have the time saying "I have far too much experience in aeromodeling to waste time on trying to organize today's aeromodelers into such a disciplined goose step;

If he refers to AMA as a socialist organization when asked what direction MA should move;

the answer is yes.

Bob Mitchell 08-28-2008 01:59 PM

RE: Mark Smith??
 


ORIGINAL: RCKen



ORIGINAL: Bob Mitchell

RCKen,

Has Mark given you any indication of whether he will participate here?
Bob,
Mark did contact via email a couple of days ago. He said he's out of town this week. But when he gets home on Monday he's going to call me and we'll talk more about getting him set up. I'll keep you posted on this issue.

Ken
Thanks.

Bob Mitchell 08-28-2008 02:07 PM

RE: Mark Smith??
 


ORIGINAL: KidEpoxy


Bob simply challenges Mr Cain on some his(Mr Cain) statements
Do we expect that to happen to Mark as well?

If hounding for specifics to general answers is acceptable,
I'd love to get the details from Mark on a variety of subjects from Paintball to Senior Discount,
and perhaps a few questions to get the gritty details about MA, & the parkie mag
Ask away, I would say.

Specifics is what this should be all about. Which response would you prefer:
"I'm going to make things better" or
"I'm going to make things better, and this is exactly how I plan to do that".

You can't make an informed decision about whether John McCain's plans to improve healthcare are better or worse than Barak Obama's without details.

Bob Mitchell 08-28-2008 02:31 PM

RE: Mark Smith??
 


ORIGINAL: F106A

Hi,
I have no problems with him asking questions, but surely he knows that any politician will not get into specifics.
Actually, no I don't know that. During this years primary campaigns I thought most, if not all of the candidates were very straightforward in the specifics of their plans for improving healthcare, tax reform, energy, etc. Do a bit of searching on line and you will find details of the candidates plans for their primary initiatives.


This is nothing new; when Nixon was running for President he had a plan to get us out of Viet Nam called “Peace with honor”. When he was pressed for details, he said that when he’s elected he’ll reveal the plan.
Yeah, and we know how well THAT worked out.


However, it doesn’t seem like these posters are all that upset that they can’t question Mark about the same issues.
You have no idea at all what my thoughts are concerning this. He's not posting here so I can't ask him, can I?

When Ken first announced the candidates forums I e-mailed Mark asking that he participate, and he indicated that he would be in contact with RCU management. That was about 10 days ago. Last night, having heard nothing since I followed up with RCKen here on the board. If he chooses not to become involved I will certainly have an opinion. I hope he does as it will be interesting to compare and contrast their answers.
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combatpigg 08-28-2008 07:25 PM

RE: Mark Smith??
 
Bob, if you think that you will ever strengthen the AMA through member involvement, you are living in a dream world. Sorry, but this path is not worth pursuing.
It's a nice sentiment, just not realistic

Bob Mitchell 08-28-2008 07:57 PM

RE: Mark Smith??
 

ORIGINAL: combatpigg

Bob, if you think that you will ever strengthen the AMA through member involvement, you are living in a dream world. Sorry, but this path is not worth pursuing.
It's a nice sentiment, just not realistic
I know that is what you believe, we've exchange a couple of message on it.

We just disagree.

edit typo


RCKen 08-28-2008 08:42 PM

RE: Mark Smith??
 
I just got off the phone with Mark Smith. He is going to participate in the RCU election sub-forums. Although, he is leaving for a family vacation tomorrow and will not be back until September 8th. He will come on to RCU at that time and will then make himself available in his election sub-forum.

Ken

Bob Mitchell 08-28-2008 08:50 PM

RE: Mark Smith??
 


ORIGINAL: RCKen

I just got off the phone with Mark Smith. He is going to participate in the RCU election sub-forums. Although, he is leaving for a family vacation tomorrow and will not be back until September 8th. He will come on to RCU at that time and will then make himself available in his election sub-forum.

Ken
Thanks for the update. I'm glad to hear it.


littlecrankshaf 08-29-2008 01:01 AM

RE: Mark Smith??
 
Cool...I hope he doesn't have any goofy rules for asking questions. I would hate to type while standing on my head or something silly like that.

Hossfly 08-30-2008 02:59 AM

RE: Mark Smith??
 
Go check him out.

http://home.everestkc.net/marktsmith...le/profile.htm

Very distinguished gentleman.

KidEpoxy 08-30-2008 11:01 AM

RE: Mark Smith??
 
Sorry Hoss
but round 2, the Photo Shoot, goes to Mark ;):D

dont worry, still plenty of points left in the game





reading that Mark link
uh, wasnt Omahawks the big non-ama that got ama'ed up?
<please dont discuss it here, just yes/no and I wont discuss it here either>

abel_pranger 08-30-2008 02:49 PM

RE: Mark Smith??
 


ORIGINAL: KidEpoxy

reading that Mark link
uh, wasnt Omahawks the big non-ama that got ama'ed up?
<please dont discuss it here, just yes/no and I wont discuss it here either>

yes

Meatshield 09-01-2008 12:22 PM

RE: Mark Smith??
 
He doesn't have a single aerobatic plane in the lineup.

Animal Jesky for EVP.

STLPilot 09-01-2008 06:56 PM

RE: Mark Smith??
 
mARKETING - 2005-Present:
Created, developed and implemented the following Marketing programs to stimulate membership growth.
• Park Pilot Program


So much for that myth that Muncie is in charge at the AMA. Unless of course someone wants to call this guy a liar.

Hossfly 09-01-2008 07:55 PM

RE: Mark Smith??
 


ORIGINAL: KidEpoxy

Sorry Hoss
but round 2, the Photo Shoot, goes to Mark ;):D

dont worry, still plenty of points left in the game
reading that Mark link
uh, wasnt Omahawks the big non-ama that got ama'ed up?
<please dont discuss it here, just yes/no and I wont discuss it here either>
KE, come out to Jim Rice's big event at Kingsbury on 10-4/5. Most of the whole bunch will be there including Smith. I plan to be there Sat. but it could be Sun.
You can get some digs in! :D

F106A 09-02-2008 10:03 AM

RE: Mark Smith??
 
Well, if he's responsible for the Park flier program, that's all I need to know-Hoss gets my vote.
BRG,
Jon

KidEpoxy 09-02-2008 10:23 AM

RE: Mark Smith??
 
F106
If Algore could single handedly create the internet,
I dont see anything wrong with Mark being the guy that single handedly created & implemented the PPP
without the staff or EC.

But when he gets here you can ask him about that point in his bio,
and I can ask him about the Omahawks point in his bio,
and others can ask him what they want to know more about


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