RE: Muncie
 

Seriously? I presume you belong to an AMA chartered club. You pay AMA $58/yr (again a presumption, that you are an AMA Open member). I pay that tax to belong to chartered clubs and enjoy use of the primo and somewhat rare sites they are in control of (and the camaraderie of others that have paid the tax in order to fly there). Isn't the club you are a member of worth that much?

Abel

RE: Muncie
 

Sorry Abel,
I was fishing, being snarcastic, trying to get Larry to tell me why they decided to dump the AMA. And maybe what their reasoning was.
I was just curious, so after my initial question wasnt answered I thought Id try a couple different approaches for the fun of it to see what the outcome might be.
I probably went a little too far with that last line.

I think Larry finally decided to pacify me much to his chagrin.

Cheers.

RE: Muncie
 

When some new company decides to make a buck by creating a new cell phone service and putting up transmission towers all over the country, which will transmit on our current frequencies...What will we do?

Oh...excuse me...this all ready happened years ago.

AMA is WAY deeper than insurance, a magazine, and a flying site!

RE: Muncie
 

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RE: Muncie
 

Well stated, Robotech! For the life of me, I don't understand the angst against the AMA! Be a member, don't be a member, seems like a simple choice. Do I think the AMA is perfect? Absolutly not! Do I think it could be better? Yes, absolutly! Do I think it's a "Good Old Boy's" network? Yes! Do I think it's still a good organization? Yes, I think it's the best model airplane organization in the world. I'm not saying this because of the upper cadre, I'm talking about you and me and if you think there is something that needs changing, or attention, get after it and change it!

RE: Muncie
 

If the lady doesnt want the club flying there,
but lets guys fly without an AMA club,
stay $58 Open AMA members and just dont tell her.

If she finds out, get the donuts.

An AMA club is a group of folks, not a field.
Be a chartered club of an EDUCATIONAL ACADEMY without a flyingfield,
thats an option isnt it, or am I thinking of something else.

RE: Muncie
 

I'll second that. Especially liked this part:
If them there rogues would just ante up the $58 to join AMA, they will become better people. It sure worked for me - cleared up a nasty toenail fungus, and my hairline has stopped receding. Don't have to use Viagra anymore, either.

Abel

RE: Muncie
 

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RE: Muncie
 

You have got to be kidding.
There are only few exceptions to your rule
that anyone that doesnt like AMA Brand is without benefit, antisocial and irresponsible?

Try it this way:
With a few exceptions, those who refuse to join a club simply because it requires SFA Brand membership, would not be beneficial to a club. Anti-social and irresponsible folks rarely do

Is that still true?
Anyone not in SFA is antisocial? Or is it just anyone not in AMA is antisocial by your decree?
Folks with other brand insurance that join a different club
are antisocial, irresponsible, and non-beneficial with few exception?



You obviously havent considered the other ramification of your rule:
With a few exceptions, those who refuse to join a $20 club simply because it requires another $58 membership, would not be beneficial to a club. Anti-social and irresponsible folks rarely do

It is amazing how Responsible and Social those guys instantly become
if they hear about & sign up for the $29 AMA discount tier.

Why have a discount tier?
To get the cheap folks that otherwise wouldnt join for $58.
Why let the cheap folks in if people like Robo know they are antisocial, irresponsible, and not beneficial with few exception.

RE: Muncie
 

I don't think we should equate lack of club membership or reluctance to join a club with anti-social or irresponsible behavior. That said, I can see how it could be more difficult to maintain flying rules and "etiquette" in a non-club situation, with no real organization to back things up.

RE: Muncie
 

Sorry Bob. I did neither. There was a qualifier and a disclaimer incuded.

RE: Muncie
 

You just contradicted yourself in one paragraph. No need to address your error.

There you go with your signature pretzl logic. You can't change someones words then make your argument based on your substitution.

At least you are consistent. I did not say "another $58 membership." You did.

I agree. They have demonstrated their willingness to abide by safety rules put forth by the AMA. They have demonstrated that in the case of an accident you, the club, and the landowner will be at least monetarily compensated. They have demonstated a willingess and desire to join in with other people with a common interest to promote the activities they share. Good start.

Why? Ummm. Lets try because it makes, with a few exceptions, Club membership more affordable for those who cannot or do not wish to invest larger sums of money in their pursuit of a hobby. And, as if it need to be pointed out again, I never said "cheap folks." You did. Geez. It wasn't that long of a sentence. Go back and read it carefully. And sober.

RE: Muncie
 

Didnt AMA do something in 08
to recruit folks that didnt want to join a local AMA club because it required $58AMA?
Yes. Its the discount tier called PPP, to appeal to folks that dont want join $58AMA.

Isnt that the diference of those guys that didnt join the $58AMA required local club in 07
but did join that local club in 08 under $29PPP requirements?
Muncie let the local club simply lowered the $58AMA requirement to $29PPP,
and those (as you describe them) antisocial nonbeneficial irresponsible guys piled into the (now no $58AMA required) local club?
Right?
Only thing keeping them out in 08 was the $58AMA if they join when that requirement was dropped (down to $29ppp),
and those are the type of guys you are talking about... only thing keeping them out of the local club was AMA req.

RE: Muncie
 

I responded to your pretzel logic in an earlier post but it was deleted/censored. I'm out.

RE: Muncie
 

Evidently responding to your petzel logic is not allowed here on RCU so I will waste no more time and typing.