D5/9/E hate the contest calender?
 

Could some of the Districts Five, District Nine, and the Executive District folks here explain what their districts hate so much about the contest calender that their REPRESENTATIVES have to vote against it?


was that an accurate representation of you as constituents of D 5/-8 9 /E ?




edit: oops, seems Arabic numerals are giving me a hard time, had the word 'nine' yet kept typing '8'... thnx Hoss

RE: D5/9/E hate the contest calender?
 

Yikes, KE: You hit wrong number. "....constituents of D 5/8/E?" should be ".... D 5/9/E ?"

D-8 DVP made the motion and voted FOR. [sm=what_smile.gif]

RE: D5/9/E hate the contest calender?
 

Ok...ya know what?  I'm in D5, and have sat here lurking on this issue long enough.  Couple of points I think need to be made.<div>
</div><div>First, there is NOTHING in any charter that suggests a DVP should be "representative" of his "constituents".  He is, indeed, to help "preside" over the district.  He serves on the 'executive" council.  He is, in short, tasked with making EXECUTIVE decisions, and PRESIDING over the operations of the district.</div><div>
</div><div>The DVP's job is not to poll the members in his district, and then do whatever they want...he owes them more than that.  While he should certainly CONSIDER their wishes, he owes them also his JUDGEMENT.</div><div>
</div><div>And guess what...just like any other family, business or organization,  sometimes leadership has to make some unpopular or difficult decisions because they're in the best interest of the organization as a whole.</div><div>
</div><div>Which brings up the second point...this idea of "hatred" for the contest calendar.  Why begin a thread by sowing the seeds of vitriol in the title?</div><div>
</div><div>I recently cut my contributions to my hobby fund by 25%.  I assure you, i do not "hate" my hobby fund, my cameras, or my airplanes.  I DO, however, happen to want a swimming pool this summer...and I want it badly enough to do without a few hobby goodies for a few months.</div><div>
</div><div>See?  Look at that...given a finite amount of resources (money), and multiple desires that required them, I had to make a RESPONSIBLE DECISION, and something had to do without for a while.</div><div>
</div><div>Strange concept in today's credit-filled bailout world, I know.</div><div>
</div><div>Honestly, I couldn't care less whether the contest calendar stays or goes since I never crack open the magazine to begin with.   But I DO want the AMA, and my DVP, to be good stewards of the resources they've been placed in charge of.</div><div>
</div><div>Have they been in this case?  Bluntly, I have no clue.</div><div>
</div><div>But to saddle them with an expectation that is unreasonable, and then label their actions as "hatred" simply because you got something taken away that you like is childish, and shows a rather significant lack of understanding about how such things work.</div><div>
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RE: D5/9/E hate the contest calender?
 

I dont think having your DVP do what our DVP does is 'unreasonable'





He took the responsible route on his own, but after hearing what his people want he went for that.
If your elected DVPs dont listen to or represent you, maybe you should elect ones that do.
Having a DVP that listens to the district is not 'unreasonable', I'm not sure why you would figure it is.

RE: D5/9/E hate the contest calender?
 

I believe I said he should, indeed, CONSIDER the wishes of those who elected him.

What is unreasonable is to expect him to act solely on that information. Any DVP who does is shortchanging his district of his most valuable asset...his judgment.

Perhaps YOU should learn that a DVP's job is NOT to "represent" you, but rather to PRESIDE over your district, and to serve it as an EXECUTIVE...and then elect one who uses his wisdom, judgement, experience, and knowledge to do that in the best manner possible, which INCLUDES, but is not LIMITED to, understanding the wishes of his district, and giving them due consideration.


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RE: D5/9/E hate the contest calender?
 

Would you provide a cite from the AMA bylaws that states something to that effect?

Wasn't my understanding, I pretty much leaned to KE's view about how things should work. It could explain some puzzling past actions that have been taken by the EC, though.........

I don't vote for anyone seeking elected office that doesn't demonstrate or at least fool me into thinking he represents me. Why even bother with elections - who would vote for that .....Uh oh!.....maybe THAT is why 9 out of 10 AMA members don't vote.

I think you may be right. Better we rethink this, Kid.


Edit to add: D-X VP said in another thread a few lines away: "As I must, I speak for the majority and the majority wants representation so I will represent them either at council or at their home field wherever is necessary." What gives with that guy?

RE: D5/9/E hate the contest calender?
 

Not entirely correct Mr. gboulton. Close but no cigar!
AMA Bylaws:
ARTICLE X OfficersSection 1.

The Officers of the AMA shall be a President, an
Executive Vice President, a Chief Financial Officer and a Vice
President to represent each of the AMA Districts. ........

Yes I agree with statement:

AMA Bylaws:
Section 6.
The District Vice President of each of the AMA
districts, as a member of the Executive Council, will formulate
policy, serve on committees (when appointed), and resolve other
matters brought before the Executive Council. The District Vice
President will appoint all of the following for his district: Contest
Board members, Contest Coordinator(s), Frequency Coordinator,
and Associate Vice President. The District Vice President is
responsible for maintaining Academy contact within the district
and providing coordination with Headquarters on AMA matters.


In the case of AMA that is very much debatable but the same is true at the highest level of administration.
How would you know anything about whether they represent, misrepresent, or what if you don't at least go through the magazine so as to have adequate knowledge to converse the subject with more authority than simple emotion?
Again I agree with you. ;)