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Old 02-02-2011, 06:18 PM
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Default RE: New Great Planes Escapade 61.

The 55AX is a good, strong engine. I wouldn't worry about it
Old 02-02-2011, 06:27 PM
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Default RE: New Great Planes Escapade 61.

thanks warren! ... and minn. my 55 has treated me well.. im with ya.. im rooting for it.


"For a good dual BB servo look at the Hobbico CS-67 - Very nice buy and run them on a 5 cell pack."



yeah that does look like a decent servo for the dollar. .. even beats tower's personal stash. i take it you have some stick-time with these?

you run these at 7.5v?

i was going to get an ebay pack of these.. from a michigan company.. but im sure they are just another a china import ( but arent they all ? ): [link=http://cgi.ebay.com/4x-SG5010-Standard-Servo-Dual-Ball-Bearing-Fit-Futaba-/390252337227?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5adcda184b]ebay servos from michigan[/link]

another question: do you think since im building this thing for scale.. its worth carbon control rods.. and other weight saving mods?

i will run a smaller tank too. im just hoping i wont be adding a 10+ grams of lead up front... have a feeling i will be.
Old 02-02-2011, 06:56 PM
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Default RE: New Great Planes Escapade 61.

I've run the CS-67's a lot on 5 cell Nihm packs - In 40-90 sport planes and budget 30-sized helis.. Good solid "Hitec" servos.

Build it stock - Fly it and go from there!
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Default RE: New Great Planes Escapade 61.

5 cell Nihm packs = 6v, not 7.5

Don't worry about saving weight on a plane like this. Use the full-size tank and add whatever weight is needed to balance.

I don't buy into the fallacy that "light planes fly better". To me, "light planes" get blown all over the sky!
Old 02-02-2011, 08:28 PM
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Default RE: New Great Planes Escapade 61.

very well.

yeah, i've only used the older NiCd technology. I guess i haven't even operated any servos at 6v yet. excited to see improved reaction!

is this what you're talking about in the NiMH family? [link=http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXNHS4&P=0]NiMH battery[/link]

should i convert my TX too ( 7c FM ) ??

not to get off topic here.. but whats the main advantages with NiMH over NiCd?


i will build stock on the plane. thanks for the support.
Old 02-03-2011, 03:46 AM
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very well.

yeah, i've only used the older NiCd technology. I guess i haven't even operated any servos at 6v yet. excited to see improved reaction!

is this what you're talking about in the NiMH family? [link=http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXNHS4&P=0]NiMH battery[/link]

should i convert my TX too ( 7c FM ) ??

not to get off topic here.. but whats the main advantages with NiMH over NiCd?


i will build stock on the plane. thanks for the support.
As with all things it is really a matter of preference. I really like the 6Volt systems and believe the gain is well worth it. I gradually switched everything over to 6 volt. Switched over many of my servos to digital as well. After reading a lot of comments that 6 volt would not be any real difference, I must state I was pleasantly surprised when it was way way more different than I expected.

I use 6V 2000 NIMH packs. Very noticeable difference and much snappier with quite a bit longer flying times. It was so noticeable to me that it even felt like a major upgrade to my planes.
Old 02-03-2011, 05:57 AM
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Default RE: New Great Planes Escapade 61.

Mine should be here today! I'll post some picts later.
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not to get off topic here.. but whats the main advantages with NiMH over NiCd?
Nihm are less prone to memory issues from continual partial and similar discharging/charging over time.
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Here are some pictures, everything looks really nice. The hatch is held in place by 4 magnets and 2 pins. looks to be an excellent design.
Iam concerned with the stabilizer, it is HUGE, and the area cut out for the fin, only leaves approx 1.25"on front and back, for support.
Usually these are glued in place and become one, however the instructions state to bolt together, looks like no glue.
Iwon't be starting on it too soon, so I may wait for Minn Flyer review.
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Default RE: New Great Planes Escapade 61.

That's nothing to worry about. The Stab will be sandwiched between the fuse on top and bottom - and the screws that hold the fin with squeeze it in there tightly.

I'm working on the HTML and graphics for the review now.

I have the Escapade and the new H-9 Phoenix 7 coming this week, so I need to get them assembled quickly because they are scheduled to be in my friend's truck which is leaving for Florida on the 18th of Feb. Then i'm flying down to meet him so I can fly them down there (Too much snow up here!)
Old 02-03-2011, 11:34 AM
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ok thanks, have a great trip,
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Old 02-03-2011, 02:21 PM
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Default RE: New Great Planes Escapade 61.

I got my 60 size Escapade today, What a sweet bird. This is a real modell airplane intended for fun. Quality is top notch. Cant wait to fly this one. Assembly looks straight forward.
Old 02-03-2011, 04:37 PM
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Default RE: New Great Planes Escapade 61.

Yeah im not a throttle back person.I love it all the way up.I just want to know i have the power if i need it with a 75ax.I dont want to go 100mph but dont want the birds to pass me.What do you think?
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Yeah im not a throttle back person.I love it all the way up.I just want to know i have the power if i need it with a 75ax.I dont want to go 100mph but dont want the birds to pass me.What do you think?
30cc DLE ought to get the job done
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Default RE: New Great Planes Escapade 61.

A 75AX will be more than enough
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A 75AX will be more than enough
Yeah, 75 is good. Of course, ultimate power requires ultimate power plant...yeah, baby!
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Default RE: New Great Planes Escapade 61.

NO mail since tuesday but the big brown airplane sled came today and dropped off my escapade it really looks nice and SO much bigger than my 40 size Greg
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Default RE: New Great Planes Escapade 61.

I was hoping mine would show up today but no such luck. Oh well, I have a busy weekend anyway
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Default RE: New Great Planes Escapade 61.

Hi....................There is no way that would put the 55AX in that plane. Just got mine today & it is big!

It is somewhat bigger than I thought it would be..............I think it would be like putting a 4 cylinder Chevy Nova engine in a "HUMMER"!

BUT............What do I know...........I have only been flying for 31 years............

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Default RE: New Great Planes Escapade 61.

The 55AX is a very strong engine. Easily as strong as most 60's
Old 02-05-2011, 06:47 AM
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Default RE: New Great Planes Escapade 61.

For the guys thinking gas the little .90 / 15cc sizes are out there. I like the escapade and if I decide to get one I'll more then likely use my JBA 15 on it.

Andy
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Default RE: New Great Planes Escapade 61.

Hello Guys,

I have started to assemble my Escapade. Engine of choice will be my .76 Sport Jett.
The fuel tank was assembled, I took it appart to verify the vent line. I noticed that the fuel lines for the 2 clunks where to long so I recomend that you check your fuel tanks. The alignment of the rudder studs was off with a 1/4 of an inch but was an easy fix when I figured it out. I will post some pictures later in the build.
Old 02-05-2011, 05:34 PM
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MinnFlyer, This is off topic but in an earlier post you mention your wife likes St. Augustine. Where are you headed in Florida this time? If you don't mind me asking. Mike (ACF)
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Default RE: New Great Planes Escapade 61.

Anytime I get a pre-assembled tank I always double-check how it was set up. I've seen too many wrong tanks.

ACF, We stopped there on our way down to the West Palm area a few years ago. We have an office in Del Rey Beach that I work out of a few weeks every winter.

Going there in two weeks. Can't wait to get out of the cold!
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My Escapade .61 has arrived! It is beautiful. In going over it I found only one problem-one of the back tabs that alignes the front hatch is missing. It will be no problem to replace. The monocote covering seems to be perfect. No wrinkles. After week in my shop we will see how it goes. Some other points:

1. There is triangle stock holding both the firewall and landing gear plate in. It looks very strong. I may still used fiberglass on the landing gear plate.

2. The engine compartment is fuel proofed.

3. Each elevator side has its own control rod which join just before the elevator servo. I have used this system on about 4 other planes and it works well.

4. On the original Escapade, I used the stock tail gear and it worked well. On the new Escapade they are using a different style of tail gear. I have to think about whether I want to use it or go with an aftermarket gear.

5. This version of the Escapade has no option to mount a single aileron servo in the center of the wing. You must use two servos mounted out in the wing. This is fine with me.

6. The main landing gear is about the strongest I have seen. You are not going to bend this gear.

7. The wheels are the cheap foam wheels common on ARFs. I am going to replace them with Sullivan FliteLite wheels.

The planes looks to be strong and well built. I still have not decided to use the cowling or not. If I use the cowling, I will have to buy a new aluminium spinner. On the original, I skipped the cowling even though I bought it. That way I went with a spinner nut which worked well and looked good.

MinnFlyer, in looking the plane over, I have no doubt is would handle a 2 stroke 91 engine very nicely. The instructions even specify that size engine for maximum performance.

If I get a chance, I will upload some pictures later.

Bruce

Sullivan = "SkyLite" wheels. Dave Brown = "Lite Flite" wheels. H9 = "Pro-Lite". Du-Bro = SuperLite & Treaded LightWeight.

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