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Old 10-01-2015, 05:09 AM
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I will be using a 3000mah Life battery and one switch to control both receiver and ignition. I have used this setup in the pass and it works really well. I plan to have the battery and ignition mounted to the engine box.
Old 10-02-2015, 07:59 AM
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Almost done. Just have to cut the cowl and install my carbon rod for the rudder. I used some carbon fiber landing gear and tail wheel I had in place of what they sent in the kit. Here are a couple more pics.

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Old 10-15-2015, 04:28 AM
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It is finished and ready for the maiden this Saturday. Even with the rudder servo moved to the fuselage just behind the wing tube and the DLE-20 mounted at 6 1/8" out from the firewall I still had to add 3oz to the nose to balance this plane at 4.5". Here are a few pics of the finished plane.

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Old 10-16-2015, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jstanton
Almost done. Just have to cut the cowl and install my carbon rod for the rudder. I used some carbon fiber landing gear and tail wheel I had in place of what they sent in the kit. Here are a couple more pics.

You might want to reconsider the tail wheel mounting. It should have the tail wheel "pivot" mounted about at the rudder leading edge. Your mounting will put unnecessary strain on the tail gear. Just a suggestion. I am flying this plane, currently, and it's a good one.
Old 10-16-2015, 08:49 AM
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Thanks for the suggestion but the tail wheel I have mounted is a carbon fiber unit that I have used many times and it is mount as the instructions suggest. I have near had an issue with this unit. I am glad to hear you like this plane. If the winds are not to bad tomorrow I plan on doing the maiden
Old 10-16-2015, 06:30 PM
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Good luck with the maiden. Are you liking the DLE 20? You may know all of this but another suggestion. Your plane and photographs look great enabling me to note that your elevator servos are using rather long horns. With the little amount of elevator needed you will be using very little servo travel, which is coarser and also harder on the servo. You want the shortest distance from the servo center that gives you the elevator travel needed. My test flights were flown like you have it and when I realized how happy I was with the plane, changed the setup. Sorry if you know this, but this is what forums are about. Happy first flight.
Old 10-21-2015, 04:10 AM
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The maiden went well. I have sum trim issues after take off but I got them figured out using the trim on the new Spectrum 7s radio. The plane fly's very well. It flys where you point it. The landings are just as other have stated out in this forum. The DLE-20 with a 17x6 prop is just the right engine for this plane. I did have to add 3oz of weight to the nose to balance the plane at 4.5". For the first couple of flight I just flew around getting used to how it fly's. Next flight with be more aggressive with the stunts.
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Originally Posted by jstanton
The maiden went well. I have sum trim issues after take off but I got them figured out using the trim on the new Spectrum 7s radio. The plane fly's very well. It flys where you point it. The landings are just as other have stated out in this forum. The DLE-20 with a 17x6 prop is just the right engine for this plane. I did have to add 3oz of weight to the nose to balance the plane at 4.5". For the first couple of flight I just flew around getting used to how it fly's. Next flight with be more aggressive with the stunts.
I fly mine with a DLE 20, 17X6 as well. Big difference is that I added over 10oz to balance. Your moving the rudder servo up forward is a very smart idea. I would do the same, but I am pretty happy with the way mine flies, after getting it all trimmed out, thus too lazy to retro fit the servo. Enjoy!
Old 10-23-2015, 09:23 AM
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Anyone hear have problems getting this thing to enter a spin?

I'm thinking about entering this thing in an Imac contest, flying the basic sequence,
and setting this up for the 1-1/2 turn spin is not working too well. The plane just keeps gliding past center, and even trying to coax the stall, plane just falls like a brick. Elevator is complete mush at mid to low airspeeds. Of course, the plane will "spin" fine.... it just won't enter the maneuver correctly.

Still experimenting with CG, surface throws and prop sizes. I have NO lack of power with my YS 1.20 with a 16-8 apc. Just can't get the darn thing to enter the spin correctly. This one maneuver is holding up my entire sequence, the rest of it is fair.

Any suggestions?
Old 10-23-2015, 10:02 AM
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Mine spins well, but I had a learning curve with it.
1. Get slow with wings level
2. gradually give full up (aerobatic up not 3D up)
3. As the nose comes up, give full rudder, add some power (adding the power here makes the difference between spin and spiral)
4. Recover
5. Adjust procedure for what works best for you.

Good luck.
Old 10-24-2015, 08:42 AM
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Thanks RCVFR!
My problem is right at #3... as the nose comes up. Can't get the nose to come up, this is the strange part.
Plane is slowed, and elevator being pulled up and gradually to full up, but it is not effective.

I might even be still a little heavy in the tail... I have balanced it, and have added weight to the nose, but reading previous posts about the quantity of nose weight added to each plane... I might be having the same trouble.

I'll check balance again, and then try your procedure... then go out and practice some more. If I can nail the spin consistently, then I'll be onto something good.

Thanks!

...Sean...
Old 10-24-2015, 08:59 AM
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Sean, sounds like nose heavy to me. Try applying some power as you give up elevator, so as to provide air movement over the tail. If you are tail heavy, the plane will want to nose up at slow speed. It's important to increase the angle of attack on the wing so as to get it to stall and go into the spin. Maybe you need "less slow" at entry.
Old 11-20-2015, 10:43 AM
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Does anybody know the Oracover, or ultracote number or name for the orange covering on this plane?
Old 12-02-2015, 12:50 PM
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hello guys i just buy this plane Phoenix Model Edge 540 .91 GP/EP ARF 65".
and i buy a O.S: 120ax two strokes with and the Bisson Pitts Muffler O.S. 120AX and a 16x8 prop, can some one tell me if this is a good motor for this plane to make acrobatics and good flights?
i buy 6 Tactic TSX47 Standard Digital High-Torque MG Servo does this works for this plane?
and what other thing you recomend ?
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Excellent combination with the OS120ax. I have the same plane with the DLE 20RA and it flies like a beast, and I believe the OS120ax puts out more power. I also have the Tactics in it and they are fine, especially the 47 digitals. Your set up is a bit less complex and lighter than mine since you are using a nitro, so will fly real nice. You are going to love this plane, good luck!
Old 12-04-2015, 04:59 PM
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Chris..Good move on the carbon fiber pushrods. That's the only way to fly. Usually when I get a new plane I discard all the hardware that comes with it and Sub what I know is better..
I have a GP. 70" Revolver with an OS AX 120. Awesome performance. It weighs ready to fly at 9' 6oz.s Yours should come out at around there somewhere. On the pushrods I used the 1/8th rods with the plastic outer tubes. You could go to a bigger rod and not use the tubes but I like the support the outer tubes give. Also I like to use the Dubro or GP. swivel ball link for connector ends they take out all the slack..
Happy flying
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Old 03-02-2016, 07:53 PM
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Ordered the 540 today. I couldn't pass up $165 shipped. Going to use a dle 20ra. Unfortunately its #3 on my list to build.
Old 05-14-2016, 08:45 AM
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Will this model fly fine and aerobatic with a Saito 115?

Thanks,

David
Old 05-18-2016, 06:34 AM
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I am also going to be ordering this model soon. I came across a brand new dle20ra for a steal...


Willy, did your model come with the aluminum or the carbon fiber landing gear?

thanks!
Old 05-28-2016, 09:18 PM
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Hi does anyone know what size the plastic wing bolts are as I want to change to steel?
Old 05-29-2016, 06:14 AM
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They are standard sae thread, not metric. I'm still trying to find the exact size. If you take them to a local hardware store they should be able to match them easy. Did you just buy your plane?
Old 05-29-2016, 10:42 AM
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They are not 1/4 unc or 6 mm so considering the plane has all metric bolts I think they are 7 mm which is an unusual size
Will post correct size when I sort it
Old 05-29-2016, 11:55 AM
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https://youtu.be/e8l9HhiYPhI

this is where I got the standard thread from.
Old 05-29-2016, 12:07 PM
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They are not 7 mm so now I'm confused
Will contact Phoenix as I have checked the pitch and size but this does not match any size on my charts
Old 05-29-2016, 12:08 PM
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If I buy one I am going to do what the guy did in the video. Epoxy in a stud and use a wing nut. Then use the nylon bolt on the other side. Did you just purchase your plane? Did it come with metal or carbon landing gear? Thanks


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