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Old 07-08-2002, 02:25 AM
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Default SuperKraft Laser 200 ARF?

Does anybody know anything/have any experience with the 87" SuperKraft Laser 200 ARF sold by Chief Aircraft? Looks like a nice plane for a G-62 or ... ?? TIA for any clues or advice.

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Old 07-08-2002, 10:13 AM
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Default SuperKraft Laser 200 ARF?

Run a search for Kangke laser 2000, there is lots of info. The plane flies great and the construction is outstanding. A Brison 3.2 or the equivalent will deliver unlimited vertical.
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Default SuperKraft Laser 200 ARF?

I just picked up the same plane and I have a Moki 2.10. Think thats enough for 3D ?
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Default SuperKraft Laser 200 ARF?

A moki 2.10 is a very powerful engine for its size, I don't think it will have any trouble. My laser weighs 16lbs 8oz with the 3.2. If you subtract the wieght of the ign, ign battery, switch harness and difference in engine weight yours will probably come in around 15 3/4 lbs. If I'm not mistaken the moki 2.1 can make in excess of 20 lbs of thrust.
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Default Do you think a G-62 would be OK?

I ask this because I have a 3W75 needing a home. I know that it makes 50% more power than the G-62 but the vibration is about half and the weight is the same.

What do you think?

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Default SuperKraft Laser 200 ARF?

Mark, a 22-inch prop is about the most the existing landing gear can handle and I think a 3W75 uses a 24. I have no doubt the plane can handle it {although its a bit of overkill.... but I like it}, it will need taller gear. Should be a blast to fly!
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OUTCAST and Co. ...

My "Lazer 2000" showed up the other day from Chief A/C: I've done a few ARFs - both giant and "regular" size - but what I saw after opening the box all but popped my eyes out!! I've gone over the parts/components with a fine toothed comb and a mirror to look in the nooks and crannys and you are right ... it is one gorgeous piece of work and the covering, with all the multi colors, is all but flawless. Another area that really got my attention was the hardware package as it was NOT the usual ARF junk you throw away. And you could almost make furniture out of the box/packing material it came in

Also, I did some of the arithmetic on flying weight, power/thrust, etc. and decided to go with the Moki 2.10 -- I can save my old G-62 and Sachs 3.7 for other stuff.

There's another project ahead of this one and I'm still scrounging up the rest of what I need (servos and such) but I am really excited about starting (and FLYING) this one. Thanks for all the info/encouragement!

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Old 07-19-2002, 09:08 AM
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Default Laser 2000

Well I have one and been flying it for a couple of months..have a FPE 2.4 in it and it flys just like I want it to...landings are very smooth........as for the landing gear.I bought mine from this outfit..much stronger than the one in the kit...< www.tntlandinggear.com>....go ahead and build the kit....you won't be sorry.............
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Default Geesh !

EVERYTHING I'm seeing and reading about the super kraft arf's is POSI-TIVE

Finally someone is doing it right
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Default SuperKraft Laser 200 ARF?

What size spinner you guys think fits the best..............

Thanks

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Default Laser 2000

Am using a Tru-Turn 3 1/4" spinner...
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Some notes from assembly so far:
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Does anyone have any experience here:
It would be helpful to get some feedback from others who've already flown theirs - e.g., CG location and control surface rates/throws (I don't trust the directions that much )

Mike
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Default SuperKraft Laser 200 ARF?

mrmike, I balanced mine right on the wing tube and it took no weight anywhere. I used the control throws as indicated in the manual for my low rates with 30% expo, high rates are all I could get with 65% expo. On low rates with this set-up the plane flies like a aerobatic trainer, very groovy and gentle, At high rates its an animal that will do far more than I am capable of. :sunsmiley
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Default SuperKraft Laser 200 ARF?

Gentlemen

I am happy to report that you will see a review on this aircraft with a ZDZ 60 for power and Hitec Digital Servos in the next issue of RCUniverse.com Magazine. From what I hear, the plane is awesome. You should be seeing it online in the next week

Kspin
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Default SuperKraft Laser 200 ARF?

outcast replied ...
I balanced mine right on the wing tube and it took no weight anywhere. I used the control throws as indicated
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Thanks for the input, I'll give it a shot. Mine's just about put together - some last minute assembly stuff (pilot & inst. panel) plus I'm waiting on a Moki spinner adapter nut, of all things, from Tru-Turn.

It will be interesting to see how much of our experience/impression(s) the RCU review reflects ...

Mike
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Default SuperKraft Laser 200 ARF?

Do you guys think the Zenoah Z445 would be too much for this plane?
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Default SuperKraft Laser 200 ARF?

I dont think the Z445 will fit under the cowl, isn't that a two cyl?
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Default AKA

Is this also known as the Kangke Laser ?

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Default Laser

Known as Kangke Laser 2000, not 200..................
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Default Kangke Laser Review

I noticed that the Kangke Laser 2000 Review has been posted off the home page.

How does this review compare to your experiences?
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Default SuperKraft Laser 200 ARF?

I agree with most of what was said in the review. I think that a ZDZ-60 is over-powering the plane to the point of getting silly. Jimmy Bananas is flying his with a 2.4, thats about 1/2 the power of the ZDZ and I'm flying mine with a 3.2 and the acceleration from hover is very impressive and thats only about 2/3 the power. I do agree with the flight performance part and I think the construction is excellent.
Old 09-23-2002, 05:14 PM
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Default 1st Flight(s)

OK, I got my Moki 2.10-powered version flown this past weekend. The control surface starting points shown in the review article are right on for starters. Too much elevator can get you into trouble: I think if I move the CG forward (and I need to be a bit more precise about its exact location) about 1/2" it will be less prone to snap/spin which I discovered it wanted to do at the top of a simple loop if I didn't unload the elevator at the top The other trait I discovered is that the plane (w/the present CG) is more happy being wheeled on during landings. It gets a little unhappy if you try to stall it onto a 3-point landing.
My flights took place at 6,800 MSL and there is just not quite enough "pull" out of the Moki at that altitude with a Zinger Pro 20x8. Frankly, I was kind of disappointed with the Moki combo and might consider going with one of the gas burners to improve the vertical. Other than the CG-related quirkiness described (to be expected), this plane is well-mannered and does exactly what you tell it to do. When you get off the aileron(s) in a roll it just stops - right NOW!! It's a keeper but definitely needs more power to realize its full potential at my altitude.
Bottom line? The review is right on and don't be afraid of over powering it.

Mike

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