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Old 12-29-2004, 06:59 AM
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Default Time spent to build an ARF?

Greetings!

Just thought I'd ask you all how much time you spent building your ARF's. Maybe it will help others thinking about the same plane and give them a good idea of how much time it will take to build it.

I realize some people almost re-design or scale-out their ARFS, but I'm taliking about basic ARF'ing - aka sticking fairly close to instructions with some minor mods.

For example, I would estimate that I spent the following hours for my ARF's:

GP Super Sportster - about 22 hours
Thunder Tiger Lazy Tiger P-51 - about 18 hours
SkyVista - 15 hours
Avistar - 40 minutes (it was the Select package!)

I'm not a fast builder as you can see, but I thought it may be interesting to see how much variance there is for similar kits.

Happy New Year!
Old 12-29-2004, 07:14 AM
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Default RE: Time spent to build an ARF?

I have only "assembled" 2 ARF's a GP Spacewalker ( about 50 hrs. ) and a Topflite 1/5 Mustang ( about 125 hrs. - Gulp !! ) I am slow and meticulous and change a lot as I go. The Spacewalker for example had an OS 120 with on board glow, FG landing gear in the fuse, dummy engine cly., extra decals, you get the picture. I have heard of guys finishing the P - 51 in 25 - 30 hrs., I find this veeeeery hard to believe.
Old 12-29-2004, 08:01 AM
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Default RE: Time spent to build an ARF?

I've never timed one, but I would estimate between 15 and 20 hours is what I usually spend. The component that takes longest for me is cutting the cowl. I can easily spend 1 to 2 hours on this one piece.
Old 12-29-2004, 11:38 AM
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I have built around 11 arf's and each has taken me no less then 40hrs. to build. Like Don I am slow and meticulous and change a lot as I go. On the brite side I have never had a arf fail me
and I have never added any lead to balance one. I have friends that put arf's together in one night and you can tell thats all it took them. I view all my planes as long term investments but some of my friends view them as short term.
I am building a chip hyde double vision now and will have about 80 hrs in it as I am recovering it .
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Old 12-29-2004, 12:52 PM
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Default RE: Time spent to build an ARF?

I like to take it slow, reinforce critical parts, and do things as straight and carefully as possible. Most of my ARF's took at least 60 hours to assemble.
Old 12-29-2004, 01:00 PM
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Default RE: Time spent to build an ARF?

hey,
Hangar 9 extra easy2 took me about 30 minues
my WM supersports 40 took me 15-20 hours.
my hangar 9 Piper cherokee ijust finished took over 30 hours.

These companies crack me up when they advertise "quick and easy assembley", or claim 15 hours assembly time when it will actually take 30 hours. . ARF's can be challanging and very time consuming.
IMO, ARF's should take under 5 hours. All you should have to do is wing halves, landinging gear, tail section,...etc . If i wanted to spend lots of time building an airplane i would buy a kit. i think ARF's should come more assembled. Lots of of people out there just want to get in the air asap.
Old 12-29-2004, 01:28 PM
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Default RE: Time spent to build an ARF?

Amazing, I thought I was just slow! My ARFs have suggested something like 20 hours and I have never come close to that. I thought it was just me, as I have never seen the question posed to the forum before.

I feel a lot better now.
Old 12-29-2004, 01:59 PM
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Default RE: Time spent to build an ARF?

some of you spend more time on arfs then I have on my last couple of kits!!! just curious, but do those who spend more time on arfs tend to not be kit builders? I personally have never spent more then maybe 4 hours on an arf, but I tend to be very directed when I work on it. (go in with an exact plan of what steps to do in what order, and only do those... that doesn't mean I don't do extra things such as reinforcing, etc... but those steps are just part of the plan also)
Old 12-29-2004, 06:56 PM
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Default RE: Time spent to build an ARF?

I can never seem to get one done in less than 20 hours and probably average 30 hours for a typical sport/3D ARF. I build very well but spend no time on detailing, too anxious to fly it.
Old 12-29-2004, 07:02 PM
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Default RE: Time spent to build an ARF?

Super STar Trainber- 14 Hrs
Tiger 60-12 hours
Cessna 177- 20Hrs
GWS Sloew stick-35 minutes
EFLIGHT Tribute- 3 hours
Ultra Stick Lite 120-5 hours

I do everything right and modify what needs to be modded but once you've built 1 arf.. you've built um all!
Old 12-29-2004, 08:24 PM
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Default RE: Time spent to build an ARF?

On some I can get it airworthy in about 10-12 hours, but most take at least 20 hours. That is getting it ready for the first flight - after that another 2-3 hours 'fine tuning' it

Jerry
Old 12-29-2004, 09:09 PM
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Default RE: Time spent to build an ARF?

My Dave Patrick Edge 540T is the easiest ARF and least time spent by far. Amazing. I'm actually bored because it's all done already.
Old 12-29-2004, 09:22 PM
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World Models Mach 1 & 2... 3 hr. each using a OS 46 FX and a T.T. 36 PRO.

There are only 4 parts to glue on the Mach 1 and 3 parts on the Mach 2. The Mach 1 is the best trainer I've "built" and flown (I instruct)

I do only ARF's and OP's, (other peoples)
Old 12-29-2004, 10:31 PM
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Default RE: Time spent to build an ARF?

Hangar 9 twist went together in about 10 hours, and the bulk of that was deciding how to run the throttle linkage for a 4 stroke.

WM T-34 took about 10 hours too, but lots of pre-fab stuff.

Sportsman Aviation FW-190 took probablly 48 hours, but it was my first warbird and first four stroke, and first with retracts.

Current is a Zen 50, it's gonna take around 24-30 hours.

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Old 12-29-2004, 10:38 PM
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Default RE: Time spent to build an ARF?

My ARFs have always taken me a lot longer than what the company said they would. And thats not counting the time it takes to drive to and from my LHS to pick up additional stuff that I'm missing or that I want to upgrade. 20 hours?, no way
Jeff
Old 12-30-2004, 12:18 AM
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Default RE: Time spent to build an ARF?

The advertised 15 - 20 hours for most ARF's is basically unrealistic for the majority of modelers. I've spent 2-3 hours a night for two weeks on most of my.40 -.60 size ARF's, but like some of the others, I take my time and get meticulous. I think 20 hours is a little out of reach for the average modeler unless you only want to fly it one time.
Old 12-30-2004, 07:35 AM
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Default RE: Time spent to build an ARF?

I tend to take almost twice the amount of time as opposed as to what is stated on the arf box. And I'm not too meticulous and don't really pay attention to all the finer details. I figure when the plane is up in the air and moving at 50 mph, you aint gonna see cosmetic mistakes anyways.

Dave...
Old 12-30-2004, 08:32 AM
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Just finished and maidened my new H9 Edge yesterday. 40 hours easy.
Old 05-29-2005, 10:40 PM
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Default RE: Time spent to build an ARF?

Man was I full of ***** on this post. I just maidened the darn thing today !!!

ORIGINAL: JoeAirPort

My Dave Patrick Edge 540T is the easiest ARF and least time spent by far. Amazing. I'm actually bored because it's all done already.
Old 05-29-2005, 10:47 PM
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LOL Joe! Don't feel bad. I haven't built a darned thing since I posted.
Old 05-29-2005, 11:09 PM
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Default RE: Time spent to build an ARF?

Ive assembled a 4* 60. A tower Kaos. A Tower Uproar. And a Top Flite Nobler (control line)
I worked on them around a hour to an hour in a half a night. Each one took three to four weeks.
Old 05-29-2005, 11:41 PM
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Default RE: Time spent to build an ARF?

Usually when i build an ARF I take a good sweet time on it like Richard L states. I make sure everything is perfect and lined up true and reinforced in areas where it needs. Usually it takes me roughly 35 - 40 hours of actually work time. As usaully that time is then spread across months because I dont have a whole lot of time to work on them.
Old 05-30-2005, 12:21 AM
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Default RE: Time spent to build an ARF?

Cool question:

I just did A Greeat Planes Super Stearman. It's basically stock with the exception of the engine so I did not need to build the weight box as I used a Zenoah G26. It took about 25 hours.

Kangke Cap232 that took about 15 hours stock with a Roto35Vi
Great Planes Gene Soucy Extra about 25 hours changed hinges to Robarts and an OS160FX otherwise stock 10 hours
4* 60 OS91 6 hours
Funtana90 20 hours YS110 most time spent setting it up for 3D

None of the times include waiting for epoxy to fully cure so you can easily add 24 hrs to each as I usually do all the epoxy at the same time if at all possible then let it sit for 24hrs
Old 05-30-2005, 01:44 AM
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Default RE: Time spent to build an ARF?

It takes me an embarssing long time to build my ARFs. The UCD, both sizes, took me 30-40 hours, box said 6-8. My 4th one looks like about half that time, mostly because I use same engine mount and the control rods were done already. I've built H9 Ultra Sticks, all three, Sig Mayhem, Twist, Avistar, and all have been in the 20-40 hour range. I don't mind though, because I consider it part of the hobby and enjoy doing it. I also do a better job on each one I do. You get to notice little things to improve on. Takes another couple hours after I get it airborne to trim it out the way I like it with balance, etc. By then I'm ready for another one.
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Old 05-30-2005, 08:54 AM
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I don't remember. Most of my planes are ones that I've bought from other people. All I had to do was mount servos, engine and electronics. Sometimes all I have to put in is the reciever and battery. I haven't built an ARF in a while. I'm lucky I guess. I fly with some really good builders who buy ARF's, fly them a few times and then sell/trade them.

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