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Old 01-21-2005, 11:01 PM
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Default Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF - New Pics


Just got my Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF from Great Planes.

I'm going to start it today.

Any Suggestions?

Thanks.
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Old 01-21-2005, 11:45 PM
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Default RE: Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF - Suggestions?

Yea Get off here and Buold that baby so we can get a flight report.
Old 01-22-2005, 12:13 AM
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Default RE: Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF - Suggestions?

I don't know the ARF, but I built 4 kits: 1st in 1985, last in 2000. They flew great! the 2000 one still flies (sold it to my Friend).
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Default RE: Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF - Suggestions?

if you build it as per the directions you cant go wrong ....be sure to use lock tite on the motor mount screws ...also get a Sullivan tank stopper to replace the metal one the comes with the plane, its better to do it now rather then later . another thing to get is a Sullivan tail wheel bracket ...the one with a spring ...here is a pic of the ones I have..O-ya mount the engine a little bit ahead of the the measurement the manual gives you or the spinner will rub ....JW





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Just got my Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF from Great Planes.

I'm going to start it today.

Any Suggestions?

Thanks.
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Old 01-22-2005, 01:25 AM
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Default RE: Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF - Suggestions?

Yeah i built one of those and pretty much it was pretty bad it crashed on maiden because of trimming. Flight only lasted under 8 seconds. The hinging gave me alot problems!!!

DO EXACTLY AS THE INSTRUCTIONS SAY BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS VERY MUCH SECUENCED. IF YOU DO SOMETHING BEFORE IT TELLS YOU THEN ITS A GOOD CHANCE THAT YOU WILL HAVE MADE A BIG BIG BIG BIG MISTAKE!!!!
Old 01-22-2005, 01:49 AM
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Default RE: Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF - Suggestions?

ORIGINAL: fasterthanlife

Yea Get off here and Buold that baby so we can get a flight report.
Next Week I give you a flight report and in-flight photos.
I'm very excited with this plane, my last plane was a 4-star that did a incredible mid-air collision with another friend's plane. I very curious how this plane will fly compared with the 4-star, this will be my 4th plane.

ORIGINAL: autoguns

if you build it as per the directions you cant go wrong ....be sure to use lock tite on the motor mount screws ...also get a Sullivan tank stopper to replace the metal one the comes with the plane, its better to do it now rather then later . another thing to get is a Sullivan tail wheel bracket ...the one with a spring ...here is a pic of the ones I have..O-ya mount the engine a little bit ahead of the the measurement the manual gives you or the spinner will rub ....JW
I already read the directions many times; it's very easy to follow.

Can you explain to me more about the Sullivan tank stopper and the Sullivan tail wheel bracket?
Please explain why I should change the original; I’m only 1 year-old into the hobby, so I’m always learning.
As you can see I live in Brazil, so it's easier if you explain what should a change using generic names, because we don't have here all the products/brands that you guys have there.

Thanks!
Old 01-22-2005, 01:51 AM
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Default RE: Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF - Suggestions?

Along AutoGuns' point - Take a look at the spinner before you mount the engine and decide if you want to use that one or not. The stock spinner is kind of cheap and has a shallow backplate. I mounted my engine using the stock spinner as a reference and when I decided to go with a sturdier Dubro spinner, I didn't have clearance between the spinner backplate and the Sportster's "permanent cowl". I ended up having to sand the heck out of that mutha to get clearance for the Dubro spinner. I probably had to remove at least a quarter of an inch when it finally fit with minimal clearance.

Set up the rudder with as much throw as possible. Once you get comfy with her, you probably will want to set the high-rates on the ailerons to max as well. Just add a bunch of expo cause the ailerons can get twitchy at higher rates.

And be smooth on the landings. The rods in the stock gear are not that strong and will bend if ditched or landed hard, especially on a grass runway. This usually results in the very pretty wheel pants backing into the bottom of the wing and making a couple of holes in the covering...

Ask me how I know 'bout that one.... [&o]
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Old 01-22-2005, 02:10 AM
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Default RE: Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF - Suggestions?

Thanks SkyDude.

Can you explain one thing, why the Dubro spinner is better than the stock spinner?
What difference it will give in-flight?


(I understood about the clearance between the spinner backplate and the SS cowl, thanks)


Note: I land on a runway, not grass.
Here in Brazil we don't have grass field, only runways. I think that kind of grass that you use there, don't grow in our land. We don’t have grass tennis court either.
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Default RE: Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF - Suggestions?

Hi,

If i was you i would go to search and type Super Sporster in you will see loads of threads talking about this plane, from building tips to flying......... its the best way to search before asking the questions again otherwise its just the same thing being repeated

As to the plane thou it was my second and is a very good flyer...... the only thing i would say to do diff would be to changed the landing gear as it will only cause you problems...... mine is below and its never failed yet with this setup....... the stock gear just seems too weak and bends and can go thro the wings or snap out completely.......
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Old 01-22-2005, 02:41 AM
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Default RE: Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF - Suggestions?

The screws on the Dubro are hex-heads and go into lock-nuts which are seated in the baseplate of the spinner. The stock spinner has cheap, easy-to-strip self-tapping Phillips-head screws that just go into the plastic of the baseplate. Difference in in-flight characterics are negligible, but you will most likely have problems with the stock spinner screws if you remove it more than a couple of times.

And I fly on a runway too. I haven't had a problem with the gear on runway landings. That damage in the pics resulted from a flame-out just as I cleared the runway on takeoff and had to ditch in chunky dirt. [:'(]
Old 01-22-2005, 02:49 AM
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Default RE: Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF - Suggestions?

Yeah, what Dragonheart said. There are ton's of posts on the SS. Here's a recent one that AutoGuns started...

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_15...tm.htm#2058407

And don't forget to put a cool pilot in there! It's no Pod Racer, but Anakin likes the SS just fine!
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Old 01-22-2005, 08:07 AM
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Default RE: Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF - Suggestions?

I had one with an os 46fx on a mac tuned pipe. Boy was it ever screaming fast. You will be better off not using the wheel pants.if you do, i guarantee you will put a hole in the bottom of your wing.

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Default RE: Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF - Suggestions?

I agree with Skydude on the spinner. I've built two (I crashed the first...I should say totalled the first) and on both of them the supplied spinner was not true. I replaced it both times with a white Dubro and it worked much better.

I fly this plane all the time and it's a real joy to fly. I have an OS .46LA on mine and it goes like crazy. If you're gonna fly off of grass watch those wheel pants. I've had mine pop loose a couple of times. Just depends on the height of the grass and how hard you set her down.

Steve
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Default RE: Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF - Suggestions?

I am flying a kit built SS20 done up in Steelers' colors. Love the plane so much I have a second SS20 kit in the wings along with something like 3 SS40 kits, an SS40 MKII kit, an SS60 kit and a Sportster Bipe, all waiting for the time to build em. One of the original design SS40 kits is earmarked for an RCM twin engine mod using Saito .30s. When I get off my butt and start building it anyway.
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Default RE: Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF - Suggestions?

I will try to figure out a way to reinforce the wheel pants. I want mine with then, it's beautifull. And normally, my landings are very soft.

I will post some pictures when I finish and some in-fights.

Thanks!
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Default RE: Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF - Suggestions?

Love the Super Sportster, and you will to. Just glass the heck out of the inside of the pants! They are a fairly zippy Plane with the right power, but it fly's equally as well at slow speeds. Here is a photo of my old Sportster.
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Old 01-22-2005, 06:50 PM
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Default RE: Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF - Suggestions?

Loose the stock gear completely!
Don't even cut the Mono on the wing for the wire struts!

Forget it...JUNK!

Do the setup posted above!

It is FAR SUPERIOR!

You will wreck the wing bottom...and the pants...

I wish I did....Popped a hole in my wing on the Maiden flight!

The bird is fast and graceful.

Colors stink for visability tho...I added black checkerboard to the bottom of the wing and stab to contrast better.

on a hot day..over a pavement runway...she will ground effect for a LONG TIME before setting down..so stay sharp..and dont balloon.
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Default RE: Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF - Suggestions?

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Loose the stock gear completely!
Don't even cut the Mono on the wing for the wire struts!

Forget it...JUNK!

Do the setup posted above!

It is FAR SUPERIOR!

You will wreck the wing bottom...and the pants...

I wish I did....Popped a hole in my wing on the Maiden flight!

The bird is fast and graceful.

Colors stink for visability tho...I added black checkerboard to the bottom of the wing and stab to contrast better.

on a hot day..over a pavement runway...she will ground effect for a LONG TIME before setting down..so stay sharp..and dont balloon.
And if I do some reinforcement in the wheel pants? In someway that the wheel pants can't twist in the direction of the wing.

I really want the stock pants for 2 reasons:
1º - It's beautiful!!!
2º - Chaging to the other, gives weight.

What do you think?
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Default RE: Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF - Suggestions?

I've been flying the stock gear for over a year. As long as you reinforce the pants inside, you should have no problem. I fly off of a very uneven grass field and I've had no issues with the stock gear....just the pants!

Steve
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I've been flying the stock gear for over a year. As long as you reinforce the pants inside, you should have no problem. I fly off of a very uneven grass field and I've had no issues with the stock gear....just the pants!

Steve
Great to hear that.
What you did to reinforce the pants inside?
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Default RE: Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF - Suggestions?

I need some help!

I'm Brazilian, so my english is not perfect.
I didn't understood two things from the manual.

The 2 things are in this 2 pictures.

Thanks for the support!!!
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Old 01-23-2005, 03:09 PM
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Default RE: Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF - Suggestions?

Hi,

Figure 2 is the correct way to mount it.............

And yes you must glue the whole inside of the wing and NOT just the joiner...... you should put epoxy all along the both edges of the wings and the joiner then hold together......... epoxy should ooozzeeeeeeee (overspill) out of the joint, just wipe away with meths or something to clean it up........ then clamp and let it dry overnight..............
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Default RE: Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF - Suggestions?

Like he said, figure 2 is the correct way to go. Use 30 minute epoxy as recommended. Two tips:
Mix the epoxy on a paper plate or something, NOT in a cup. Large amounts of epoxy mixed in a cup will set up (harden) very fast, too fast in some instances. It has to do with surface area. Epoxy heats up when it hardens and it cant shed the heat fast enough in a cup. I have learned this the hard way!
Also, have rubbing alcohol and plenty of paper towels or rags handy to wipe up the epoxy that will squeeze out when you push the wing halves together.
I use masking tape hold the wing halves together while they set up, by the way.
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Default RE: Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF - Suggestions?

Iv'e found that using a small clamp on the front of the wing holder and inserting the wing bolts half way into the holes in the back of the wing , then use rubber bands to squeeze the wing bolts together . this works much better then masking tape to hold the wing halves tight together, while the epoxy cures.... JW
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Default RE: Super Sportster 40 MkII ARF - Suggestions?

Abras,
I had one of the plywood blocks come loose. I used the technique they suggested, using microballons and epoxy, and it just didn't grab. Clean the area to be glued inside really well and use slowere setting epoxy. When I fixed these I layed a small piece of fiberglass cloth across the plywood to secure it. I've not had a problem since.

As for the wing joining, coat the wing roots with epoxy AND epoxy the wing joiner. Clamp it just like in the second diagram.

Steve

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