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Old 09-28-2002, 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by hattend
I'll be putting the Moki 2.1 in it.
And then I read this thread (post 13):
http://www.rcuniverse.com/showthread...651&forumid=37

Looks like I may be going to gas (my first). The Fox 3.2 is looking better and better. I'll save the Moki for something else.

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Old 09-29-2002, 01:38 AM
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Sounds good Hattend, THAT should make it Rip holes in the sky!!

Yours is going to be a bad boy like mine is !!!!!

Old 09-29-2002, 04:00 AM
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I had a chance to visit X300Pilot this afternoon and take some pictures of the big Extra. All I can say is that if it flys half as good as it looks...

First, here is a shot of the "built-up" (lite-ply) canopy from the bottom. Very nice!
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Old 09-29-2002, 04:02 AM
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Here is a picture of the cowl. The checkerboard is painted and the gold-trim is made from tape. It really must have taken *somebody* quite a while to do this...
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Old 09-29-2002, 04:03 AM
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Here is a shot of the engine-box. Everything has already been fuel-proofed.
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Old 09-29-2002, 04:04 AM
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Looking inside the fuselage (under the canopy)...
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Old 09-29-2002, 04:06 AM
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A picture of the same area only looking toward the nose of the plane. Notice the laser-cutouts for lightening! I can't say it enough-- it's a beauty!
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Old 09-29-2002, 04:08 AM
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Here is a picture of the rudder. (Note the size in comparison to X300Pilot's hand!)
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And a picture of the (separated) horizontal stabilizer. Note that both the horizontal and vertical stabilizer are double-beveled at the hinges.
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Old 09-29-2002, 04:12 AM
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Here is the vertical-stabilizer. As mentioned previously, this is double-beveled.
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Old 09-29-2002, 05:21 AM
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Those photos make me giddy! I can't wait for mine to get here. We are expecting snow by next weekend, so my first flight probably won't occur before next April (once winter gets here, it's HERE!).

Hope you guys will post some flight pics!

Don
Old 09-29-2002, 10:36 AM
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Good looking pictures. Mine will be arriving Tuesday. Does anyone know how the weight and CG is coming out with GAS? I have a BME 44 that I would like to put on it but I want to keep the wing loading down for 3D. It looks like it has a short forward moment. Is the CG supposed to be on the wing tube? Are you using the CA hinges or nylon? How about supplied control horns or Rocket City?

Thanks,

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Old 09-29-2002, 11:04 AM
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Nobody has mentioned how much wing area this model has - it sounds a wee bit small for most gassers -
It is a very pretty thing .
Old 09-29-2002, 11:59 AM
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the box say's w/s 78" w/area 1157"

The Manual say's w/s 78 1/2", w/area 1180"

The Manual also say's that this plane was tested with up to 65cc gasser. So the bme44 should do just fine.

Got mine last week, but haven't started on it yet. But i can assure you that all the posts that you see here are true. Thumbs up on this one, It truely is a work of art.


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Old 09-29-2002, 12:20 PM
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Nobody mentioned that their wing tube is so tight they have to wrestle to get it in. It takes me about a minute of twisting, pushing and pulling to get mine in and then another minute and a helper to get the wings on, no exaggeration.

The stab is loose on the tubes, it rotates about a 1/32" of an inch on the tubes, I think that would cause some in-flight problems.

Nobody else has flat spots on the fuselage where the sheeting is supposed to be round? I counted six. Two on the top near the cowl, one on the bottom near the cowl and two just behind the canopy and one in front of the stab.

Their canopies are not flawed with low quality plastic that has crap in the plastic itself causing lumps?

Or the cowl has the trailing edge curved up on the top?

Has anyone opened the spinner to check what the rivets are for on the back? This is not shown in the manual, but it is special.

The covering on mine looks great until I see all the iron marks on it from the factory, the sheeting is so soft it must have dented really easily.

Did I get the rejects box from Tower?

Maybe this is why it took so long for these to get to market and this one slipped thru.

Does anyone have any of these problems with their kit?
Old 09-29-2002, 12:33 PM
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Looks like you were the unfortunate one to get a reject. Mine doesn't have any of the problems you mention. I'd be calling them and complaining. Sorry yours was bad, Usually i have that luck but not this time. Let us know how it goes, getting a replacement.

Lee
Old 09-29-2002, 12:41 PM
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Don't let snow slow you down. Remove the wheels and put on skids and have a ball!

Originally posted by hattend
Those photos make me giddy! I can't wait for mine to get here. We are expecting snow by next weekend, so my first flight probably won't occur before next April (once winter gets here, it's HERE!).
Hope you guys will post some flight pics!

Don
Old 09-29-2002, 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by Geistware
Don't let snow slow you down. Remove the wheels and put on skids and have a ball!

That's a thought if I lived in Anchorage but I'm in the interior of the state. The main show-stopper for winter is the temperature. By mid October it's hovering near zero and by December we're down in the minus 20 to minus 30 range.

When I first got up here I was flying some Zagis in the winter just to do some flying. That lasted about a minute one day in January.

I'm sure there are some hardy souls in the Fairbanks area (250 miles east of me) who fly year round, but I'm perfectly happy to fly my Realflight G2 from October to March.

Good luck with your Extra...post some pics!

Don
Old 09-29-2002, 05:05 PM
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Guys, Here's the deal,......I know that there ARE indeed no matter how good the product is, there are times when one unit is not as good as the rest, it happens ALL the time. Skypilot has gotten one of those, my suggestion is to contact them, and they will take care of you.

Thanks very much Robert for taking the time to show this thing off!! (now i'm getting a swelled head) this thing is truly beautiful, I cant wait to get it in the air but with the flying days getting more scarce, it'll probably be around next spring.

To answer your question GSPILOT,...I plan on using rocket city control links and 1/4 scale nylon Klett hinges, with a few more small changes, this bird is going to be awesome!!
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Ok, to whom it applies (not many at all) I have checked out the spinner for these "rivets" that SKYPILOT was wondering about. They were built into the spinner to eliminate the painstaking process of finding the right spinner adapter to fit the engine. GP has no way of knowing what engine you will use, so they did it this way which is good, I can't begin to tell you how many times I have been back and forth the store looking for the right spinner adapter!!!!! What a pain!!!!

This takes care of that good job GP!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 09-29-2002, 10:52 PM
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How is the wing held onto the tube? How is the canopy held on? Those pictures sure look nice. It looks like everything is glued properly or you did add some extra glue? I hate going through an ARF with Titebond fixing the builders mistakes.

Thanks,

Chris
Old 09-29-2002, 11:01 PM
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Please allow me to throw in a question here--I am not very good at solddering--Has anybody tried using JB Weld instead of solder. I do this in other parts of the plane, but never tried it on the pushrods. Am I the only only one.
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qspilot,

The wings are slid onto the wing tube and then two nylon bolts go thru the fuslage into the wing to hold them on. The stab has screws that screw into the tubes.

AJF--2,

I would not use JB Weld.

Soldering is not hard if you use plumbing type flux instead of acid liquid flux and use silver bearing solder that is sold for plumbing today. Just heat up the joint without turning the flux black and keep touching the solder to the joint until it flows. Let it cool without disturbing it and clean off the residual flux.

I use Stay Clean brand paste flux and have very good luck. I use the same flux at work for plumbing and soldering the corners of drain pans.

If I can clarify anything let me know.

About my previous post, I'm just really bummed. I have been waiting since last year for this plane and it looks like I'll have to wait until November to get a replacement. I will call Great Planes tomorrow.

Brian
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Skypilot, I'm sure if you call them they could get another plane to you sooner than that, sorry about your misfortune, but hey look at it this way, the weather is getting ready to turn bad anyway, so you'll have until the spring to get it ready to fly, and I'm sure it will be worth the wait.

As for the pushrods on this bird, I decided to make this thing as nice as I possibly could so I purchased some carbon fiber rods and some 4-40 all thread and I'm going to make my own nice pushrods with nice ball links and rocket city control links. I'll use JB Weld to glue the all thread into the carbon rods.
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X300PILOT,

Have you checked the fit of your wing tubes yet?

Can you tell me the type of tubes in your wing and fuselage?

Mine was a soft recycled grey/brown paper looking tube.

I am going to send mine back but maybe if the aluminum tube was sprayed with silicone it would slide better. It was really, really tight.

Brian

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