Dennis H.

I just got one, look very good, Any one else have one, Anything to watch out for, the C/G and Flying?
Thanks
Dennis

Dennis H.

No one own one? []

tvguy

I have the Pacific 30 size. My advice, check all the parts with the parts list first, they are well known for having faulty hardware, and not enough hardware, Also if you have problems and need to contact them, don't hold your breath. I have sent 5 e-mails, and received no response to any of them. I have heard of fewer problems with the 120 size however, just be real cautious. My advice to anyone asking, don't buy one. You'll wind up buying allot of replacement parts that already came with the model.

alfredbmor

The Model Airplane News magazine in it current issue (november I think) have posted a very interesting article about bipes, also tells you how to find the Center of Gravity, I do not have the magazine here with me at the office but wath I can remeber is that you have to calculate 27% from the leading edge of both wings then trace a line that conects both wings at the 27% and measure from the bottom wing 57% of that line and whoala! there is your Center of Gravity. For a more understanding answer refeer to the magazine, there are several very useful tips on it about bipes.
Have fun

Dennis H.

Thanks all, I''l have a look at the mag.
Dennis

damagedgoodes

Dennis H.,
I have the PA Tiger 120 in the green/yellow colours. I can tell you that it is one of the best ARF's i've ever purchased. The quality of construction was excellent in mine. I run an OS 120 SIII with JR 539 servos all round. There were a few teething problems from memory (built it over a year ago now), like the engine is a little further out than the manual states as the SIII has the fuel pump on the back so the engine sits out further on the mount. I think only 5-6mm. The engine mount was also replaced with a Dave Brown nylon mount as it allowed the engine to come back further than the supplied two piece aluminium mount. I replaced all the pull/pull cables with dubro 2-56 as the clevis's supplied are metric thread and hard to replace if need be. This was a personal choice only however. I also replace the flying wires with fishing trace (can't remember the strength but it's a bit thicker than the dubro 2-56 cable on the pull/pull, maybe 40 or 60 pound trace) as i initially used the same cable from pull/pull but snapped two flying wires first flight. (it was doing very nice scale loops and spins at the time). I also replaced the wheels with similar sized dubro wheels that have the valve on the side. I run them at atmospheric presser and it provides good shock absorbing to the lg. The other modification was to fit an OS 90 degree exhaust adapter to angle back the exhaust. If all these sound like a lot of mods well i guess yes, but far less than i have had to do in the past with other ARF's. Setting it up takes a while with all the flying wires but as a tip get a small board of such that you can clip the f/w clevis's to with labels on the board for each clevis end. That way you know where each f/w goes. (they all end up slightly different lengths and once you set them up with the same tensions you need to put them back the same place each time). I glued the tail feathers on as well as the two screws and the bottom wing halves together as i carry mine in a van so place wasn't an issue. C of G was as per the manual. I marked the max/min points on the top wing box (fuel tank on the real beast) and balanced it mid point on my finger tips (not real accurate but the balance seems fine, never changed it)
The plane flies like the box says, it is like a big trainer. It will fly very slowly, but remember, it is a large model than has some weight, so fly accordingly. It requires rudder in the turns as it has adverse yaw (i don't setup mixing or differential aileron) and is a great aircraft for learning proper control input. It will do all scale aerobatics, but have plenty of height until your comfortable as rolls can take a while if your used to flying extras. If i lost it for some reason i would definitely get another. I baby the tiger, i fly on nice calm days and fly it as it would have been all those years ago, and never come close to loosing it or stalling it. If you need any more help, advice or pic's pm me, only to happy to help,
Dave.

ghostrider168

Does anyone know what is the make and model number of this landing gear? I got this picture from: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2658...74093234vzRjlJ

gilbertfh

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Wow that is super cool landing gear I am going to start a new thread asking about it.

DocYates

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I have one that is several years old, and it flies great, like he said, a big trainer. I have handed the transmitter over to friends and they could not believe how smooth this thing flies. Mine has a few teething problems as well, like the flying wires. The clevis are not standard size, so if it were me, and I was building another I would go down and subsitute the clevis and threaded rod for ones which are readily avaialble. I had two clevises to break and in order to replace them, I now need to replace the entire wire. Also the covering on mine has begun to seperate, I have the red and silver version. The tail needs to be recovered. Mine is powered with an OS 1.20 four stroke, an old one, with a Kline regulator.
Don't be hesitant to fly it, you will love it.
Tommy

gilbertfh

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I just purchased myself a new Pac Aero Tiger Moth 120 with a Saito 125. I am extremely anxious to fly it but I have to wait a couple of months. Quick question though does anyone know the scale? I know it is a big beast.

ghostrider168

Hi Dave,

One thing I didn’t like about this ARF was to see the muffler exiting on the side of the cowl as per instruction. It really kills the scale look of the plane. I am setting up my Tiger Moth with the same set up as yours. I am curious on you installation of the 90 degree exhaust adapter. Does it exit through the bottom of the cowl? Do you have any photos you could share with us?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Gary

damagedgoodes

Gary,
I'll try to send some pics to you tonight, but it may be a day or two, pretty busy with work and home life. I used an OS 90 degree adaptor out of the head to exit the exhaust out the cowl. The only cut out was a small oval type shape on the side of the cowl as the elbow just touched the fibreglass. I felt prevention was better than cure and made a nice cut out with the dremel before the fibreglass melted. Hope this helps and shall email soon. Cheers,
Dave

ghostrider168

I finally finished putting together this tiger moth. During construction, one of the clevis that came with the ARF broke. If this happen during flight, the plane would have been totaled. I subsequently changed all clevises to Great Plane. I had a Saito 150 installed and it should have plenty of power for this plane. I do however have one concern, the little opening in the front of the cowling seems a bit small. Without enlarging the cowling opening, do you think this is enough air circulation for the engine? Does anyone have engine overheating problem?

jeffEE

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I have this plane, and also have a Saito 150 in it. I opened all the little holes in the front, the long oval, the long rectangle and the small oval. And I made the opening around the prop washer a bit bigger also. so far, no problems with over heating, and one summer of flights on it. I also have a 3 blade prop on it to keep it from smacking the ground if the nose comes up a bit fast on take off. Love the plane and how it flies. Hate all the bolts to get the wing on and off for trasporting it.

ghostrider168

Hi Jeff,

Thanks for the info. How much bigger do you have to open up the front openings? If you have any picture? Greatly appriciated.

jeffEE

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hope this helps.

kid chuckles

Fella's check those 90 adapters out good the one I have says not to use a stock muffler with them as the muffler is to heavy and will break the adapter where it exits the head. I lost a Sundowner because of this situation and now they put this amendment in the package. Good luck my motor was a Satio 180.

NoFlaps

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Here's mine...I picked up at teh Toledo show at the Maxiford booth ( green models) it was a steal for what you get...I paid waaaay less that what PAM lists them for .
I've been adding camo, and some more scale like details (that i can afford that is) pilot is almost ready...I concerned about the flying wired and if improperly tightened then it may cause wing warpage.
Are these wires mostly for looks or are they actially providing rigidity and structural bracing ?
I get the impression the screws would rip out if under excessive loads.
I have an FPE 1.3 gasoline engine in her... I can't wait for it to stop raining [8D]

jeffEE

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If I have the time and the sky is full, I put them on, ( flying wires) but I have 40 or more flights without the wires and have never had a problem. Of course I am not trying to do 3D with it either.

NoFlaps

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good info to know...
Thanks!

ghostrider168

Maiden my Tigermoth yesterday. Wow! what a plane.

Engine:

Saito 150 with 90-degree elbow.
Evolution remote glow plug connector
Master Airscrew propeller 16-8


Upgrades:

Du-Bro Wheels – 4.5”
Du-Bro 24 oz fuel tank.
Great plane pilot.
Great Plane Clevis
Tail color decals.
2.5” spinner
Spektrum DX7
Spektrum digital servos

ghostrider168

I hope this tread is not dead.


Has anyone one of you install a gas engine in this plane? I have a evolution 26 in mind and wondering if this is a good match.

NoFlaps

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I had one w/ an FPE 21cc enginbe on her...it was more than enough power.
On the maiden flight, the factory clevisis poped off on both on a loop, from the elevator and rudder. Using aileron and throttle only I managed to get her level and on the ground but the gear ripped out and sheared off an axel, and the weight of the engine broke her neck off of her about 4-5" back from the firewall, right between the ring struts. =( I can
't find spare parts anywhere.

ghostrider168

NoFlaps....sorry to hear that. Yeah...I have to replace all my clvises with Great Plane type. For spare parts, you could try http://winnerrc.com/ or http://www.pacaeromodel.com/

good luck.

zdsh13

I just bought a replacement fuselage from Pacific Aero, they had a green military in stock that I needed. I'm not sure what there inventories are but you should call and see if they have what you need.