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Old 03-23-2013, 06:22 PM
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Hi Heli-NuBee,

Nice to see the Gilmore is still a very liked Modell. I got mine now over 3 years and was properly one of the first who put the ASP 400 radial in. Saying that I would have by now over 50 outings with it, so far all event free. Despite a lot of the ASP 400 owners spend more time with overhauling the engine then flying it, I never intended to take it apart beside adjusting the valves and filled it with after run oil after every run, it still performs as it was new, maybe I was one of the lucky once
The only thing I criticise on this Modell that the wheel spats are out of plastic instead of fibre glass, I recommend you enforce them inside with fiberglass as good as possible otherwise they will crack quickly through the middle if you hit something.

Hope you have as much joy as I do with it.

see mine on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BRCqGCbQDg

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Old 03-24-2013, 05:53 PM
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Hey Primi, thanks for the heads up. I will be powering my Gilmore with a Saito 450 radial. I also have an ASP 400 but I will be installing that engine in a CMP Zero. I have ordered Keleco exhaust rings and Microsens on board glow systems for both engines. The Gilmore build is going very quickly - the wing is complete already.

Best wishes and good safe flying.

Heli-NuBee (AKA Roger the radial rabbit)

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Old 03-26-2013, 03:59 PM
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I completed the empanage today. The elevator and rudder are functional and adjusted to the manual specs. Not much more I can do now until the on board glow system and exhaust ring arrive. Then I can proceed with installing the engine and fuel system.

Best wishes and good safe flying.

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Old 04-07-2013, 06:11 AM
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Well after 2 yrs of flying and having must be over 100 trouble free flights it all ended today,i had only been into the flight for around 2mins when i lost control of the ailerons,a close inspection found that one of the aileron servo mounts had come away from the plate that fixes into the wing and must have jammed the servo so the aileron was stuck down so it was impossible to control,i tried using the rudder and elevator but it would not respond and in it went.i suppose 2 yrs of a petrol engine vibrating up front took its toll,lesson learned.


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Old 04-10-2013, 06:54 PM
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I received my Keleo exhaust for my Saito 450 radial engine yesterday and made some good progress on the Gilmore build today. The exhaust was mounted to the engine and the engine installed into the plane.

ian5191, so sorry to see that you lost your Gilmore. Stuff happens I guess, but it is always tough to loose an airplane.

Best wishes and good safe flying.

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Old 04-11-2013, 06:46 PM
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Second try at a picture.

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Old 04-11-2013, 06:48 PM
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Third try at a picture.

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Old 04-15-2013, 05:37 PM
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I received my Microsens on board glow system today. I now have everything I need to complete the build. Hooray!! time to get busy.

Best wishes and good safe flying.

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Old 04-19-2013, 05:20 PM
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I made a little more progress today. I installed the throttle servo and am working on the on board glow system. Progress is slow but it is moving forward.

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Old 04-21-2013, 02:42 AM
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looks good, and great engine

Make sure wour wheel-axels clear the wheel pants whan the struts are compressed, or there will be trouble.
Old 04-22-2013, 11:49 AM
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Progress is continuing at a snails pace. Some day I will suprise everyone, including myself and get this project done.

Best wishes and good safe flying.

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Old 04-27-2013, 03:16 PM
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I though I had the engine ready on the Gilmore to run but I ran into a little snag. I could not get the Microsens glow system to light the plugs today. I will need to do a little trouble shooting and see if I can get it operating properly.

Best wishes and good safe flying.

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Old 04-29-2013, 04:16 PM
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I found the problem with the Microsens on board glow system today. The problem was with a bad T connector. I guess I used too much heat when soldering the connector because plastic melted and kept the connector from making electrical contact. Eveything is working great now. I am very close to running the engine but should do some other minor small things like fuel proofing, rechecking control throws, tighten the covering and etc.

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Old 05-02-2013, 04:09 PM
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I got my Saito 450 radial engine powered Gilmore Red Lion racer running for the first time today. I shot a very poor short video of it running http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkH7V...ature=youtu.be. Sorry for the poor quality but I could not see the screen in the bright sun light. I picked up this engine used in a trade with one of my club members. He tells me this engine has never been in a plane and only has about six bench runs. The engine ran pretty well but does need some run time and some fine tuning. One disappointing thing though was one of the cylinder mounting bolts on cylinder number one that attaches the cylinder to the crankcase broke during the initial runs. I think it is going to be a real pain to remove and replace the broken bolt. I am just an old big kid that is tickled with his new toys.

Best wishes and good safe flying.

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Old 05-12-2013, 12:22 PM
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I could not get the other bolts out of number one cylinder on my Saito 450 radial engine. There seems to be some serious lock tight on those bolts. I went ahead today and did another test run, broken bolt and all. I got the engine tuned much better and it is now probably ready for fly. I was getting 6,450 rpm with a APC 22 x 10 prop on the static run. The engine will probably unload in the air and run a bit higher rpm and the engine will gain a little more rpm as it breaks in more. I am not really happy with flying the engine with one bolt broken on cylinder number one but the alternative is to remove the engine and send it to Horizon or take it to a machine shop. I will keep a close eye on the engine and see how this works out.

Best wishes and good safe flying.

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Old 05-13-2013, 03:40 PM
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Hey maxam (Tom), thanks for keeping me honest and motivated. After reading your post, I gave it one more try and for some reason, this time it was sucessful. Maybe the second heat cycle on the engine was enough to allow the bolts to loosen and turn. Any way, I was able to remove the broken stub without any problem after I removed the cylinder. I have included a picture of the complete broken bolt. I feel much better now that I know the engine is repaired properly. I noticed that the rocker arms, valves and valve train were very dry while disassembling the engine, so I removed all of the rocker arm covers and oiled the valve trains well. Now the Saito 450 radial engine powered Gilmore Red Lion racer is ready for its maiden flight.

Best wishes and good safe flying.

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Old 05-15-2013, 05:25 PM
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My Saito 450 radial engine powered Gilmore Red Lion racer had its maiden flight today. Everything went quite well and I am pleased with the plane and engine. The plane flys well and is very stable. I had so much fun doing the maiden flight I had to fly it again the second time. The engine seems to run best at 1/2 to 3/4 throttle. It does not seem to want to run well at full throttle. 1/2 to 3/4 throttle is fine though because it flys the plane well. I had plenty of power and the plane was certainly fast enough at those throttle settings. It looks as though I have another winner. I second flight was seven minutes long and the engine used about 22 ounces of fuel. I had about 1/3 left on the 32 ounce tank at the end of the flight. I wish I could find someone local that could or would do some videos because the club fellow who used to do a great job passed away and no one else seems to be able to do a good video.

Best wishes and good safe flying.

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congrads on your flight. Mine flies like a million bucks on a DLE55. Can anyone tell me the proper color to match the oracover or ultacoat for the light brown color. I see a cream that is being sold on line but it is hard to tell if it matches. I also made a large Red lion from an amr kit powered by a 216 Moki,it also flies well. John
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I put a couple of more flights on my Saito 450 radial engine powered Gilmore Red Lion racer today. What a great combination this is turning out to be. The plane is awesome.

Best wishes and good safe flying.

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I so wish that these were still being sold so I could obtain a backup for mine.
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Is there anyone still building this plane ? I crashed mine on maiden flight due to a faulty battery cable (RX battery). I rebuild the entire front side (everything in fornt of LE was destroyed) and i need to know now what are the offset distances for the engine mounting points. The old firewall got in the bin so I have no idea where to mount the engine now. Thanks !
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I will see if I have time tonight to check mine...
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Bump ! Anyone can provide any info about the offset of the engine mounting points ? A close-up picture of the firewall from someone who did not installed the engine yet will be great !

Thank you !
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Are you asking for right thrust and down thrust amounts in degrees?
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Sorry its been so wet with storms here. havent been able to do any thing...Today there is sunshine. Will drag it out

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