Segull 300S
 

OK,

I have seen several posts regarding different issues with this plane, I'm considering buying one but If it is a POS I would like the heads up!

I would like anyone who has this plane to weigh in please.

I've read on here that some folks have weight issues with the 300

I've read the plane has to landed very fast and the plane just does'nt fly slow at all or it lead sled

I've read it flys great and is a good plane.

I've read its the exact same plane as the Graupner 300 with the exception of the covering.

Can someone please set the record straight for me. I would like a .60 300 and there does'nt seem to be allot of options.

I plan to use a JR 6102 system with a Super Tigre 90 s stroke.

Thanks for the help!

Michael

RE: Segull 300S
 

I've been flying it for about 3 months. Probably 40 flights.

1. throw out the control horns and other crap. Buy Dubro. This is an aerobatic plane, treat it as such.
2. it goes together like a dream, however, you need to reinforce (30 min epoxy) the firewall, and the wing mount.
3. it flies like a dream with proper setup and even though I have a large fuel tank in it, its handeling on the ground is great
4. lots of people can't land a plane correctly. Its all about the glide slope, and throttle control
5. I have a TT 61 in it. almost unlimited vertical, don't overpower it. I had a buddy with a 75 in it and it was too much.
6. remember that aerobatics are about control not speed for the vast majority of manuvers, a different prop will do a lot.

RE: Segull 300S
 

I already have a Super Tigre .90 for my next plane. It weighs the same as the .61 so I guess I can just set the throttle at 65% and I should be fine.... What do you think?

Any comments on the the segull 300 .60 vs. the Great Planes 300 .60

I would buy the GP 300 but it only comes in a build kit and I have never built a plane before. I'm afraid I would mess it up and it would not fly right!

I heard the GP 300 is a great flyer, But I would think any 300 should fly similar?

Thanks!

Michael

RE: Segull 300S
 

Well, I don't know. I've never actually set a larger engine at a lower rate to see how it goes. I think that if I were you, I'd get a 61. I know that there are people out there that will put such an engine on this plane, but from what I have seen, the airframe just can't take it. If you don't break a linkage you'll pull the horns right out of the balsa due to the extra thrust in manuvers. Its your choice but for the 150 bucks it would cost for a decent 61, I'd just buy a new engine.

RE: Segull 300S
 

EAP,

I have the Seagull 300. Originally, I flew it with a Magnum .91XLS. It's a great engine, but a bit too much for this airframe. The prop shaft height doesn't lend itself to running a 14" prop, so I ended up flying it on a 13X8 ASP. Flies great with "unlimited vertical" (groan), but it seems pointless to waste a 91 engine propped like a 61, with the additional vibration you get with a larger engine.

So, I swapped out a TT 61 for the Magnum. It is a perfect drop in, both as to engine mount holes and the spinner to firewall as well. The only thing I had to adjust was the cowl cut out for the needle valve; TT 61 angles back, while the Magnum is conventionally straight.l Even the balance was unchanged.

Flying characteristics with the TT61 are excellent. All the vertical you want for flying any maneuvers, loops as big as you want. Plus with the 61, you get to use all the throttle you want, where the larger engine flies between 1/4 and 1/2 throttle unless you are flying "unlimited vertical", which for me doesn't make a lot of sense.

This is a good flying plane, keep the elevator travel toned down so you don't get unintentional snaps. It's a relatively inexpensive model, structurally OK, but some assembly challenges such as the belly pan being a touch too short. I just added 1/8" balsa to the front of the pan, fuel proofed it and went flying.

It is heavier than most trainers, but that is a matter of becoming familiar with how an aerobatic plane flies. I think you will like it.

Jim

RE: Segull 300S
 

Are you saying the .90 will not work or are you saying the .90 will work with a smaller prop and the throttle cut back to 65% on my digital remote?

the engine was a new purcahse and I really do not want to buy another engine! Can it work?

Later,

Michael

RE: Segull 300S
 

Michael,

You can never have too much power, but its not impossible to have not enough

If the engines way the same I dont see the problem with increased capacity. You can always use throttle control

Cheers

Phil

RE: Segull 300S
 

Thanks,

I will use the .90 and tone back the throttle on the computer radio.

Any other comments on the Segull 300 .60 before I buy one!

I'm thinking about getting it in the next few days........

Help me decide please!

RE: Segull 300S
 

I have it as well... I've flown it about 15 times (not much time to fly lately, been busy). I have my Saito .91 on it with a 14X6. I also squeezed a 10oz tank in there. I'm going to change the prop as the 14X6 doesn't give me much vert. I've also noticed the plane doesn't Knife edge very well. But I've never cared much for that trick so i don't care too much. I have a higley heavey hub and prop nuts along with 3 oz. of lead up front and I'm happy with it's landings.. I've yet to nose over or pancake the landing gear. I'm only a second season pilot for reference. I did replace the cheesy wheel pants with my old set from my hangar 9 Cessna trainer... They look real good on it.


http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/upfi...42/Mk27363.jpg

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RE: Segull 300S
 

I have the 540 Edge from Seagull,I have not flown it yet but it was a real pleasure to put together and for the price of 175.00 it's a steal!
I have a Magnum .91 4 stroker in mine.

RE: Segull 300S
 

WARP....the pot holders in the back give the plane a nice touch...hehehehehe.:D:D:D

RE: Segull 300S
 

Well they go with my aircraft's motif of "Too Hot to Touch" :D



Truthfully though, would you believe I'm a bachelour? When Grandma says, "Here, I made these for your new home." You display them!.... hehehe

RE: Segull 300S
 

Is there a website for Seagull?
Thanks

Nanuk

RE: Segull 300S
 

Heres some pics of mine and i find the time to fly her as often as possible. i have it fitted with a OS61 with a pitts muffler 12x6 prop and was unaware that the OS91 was the same size and weight or i would have gone for that instead, but this engine is no slouch either [link=http://www.midmad.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=7148]seagull 300[/link] its a well constructed plane and fun flyer its fast


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BILL

RE: Segull 300S
 

Well,

For the moment, I have decided to go with the Great Planes 300S Kit, But we will see how impatient I get and Buy an ARF to get in the air..... Maybe if I cras one I bought instead of built It will hurt a little less:)

Well the it sounds like there are conflicts on this plane and this post will not come to a final conclusion. I like the scheme and the price but I have heard mixed feelings on the stability and weight of this plane.

but after starting to build a GP 300s I can tell you any plane ARF is a steal at $144 even if you have to work out a few minor details!

Later,
Michael

RE: Segull 300S
 

Well said EAP.

We are paying for a "mass produced/assembled" product. Not a custom built kit from that Top Gun contender in your local club. (He'd charge you $144 just to talk about the plane!) Just work out the tweaks and get on with it. :D

RE: Segull 300S
 

Warpd, where did ya get the cool logo for the bottom of the wing?

RE: Segull 300S
 

Well,

I bought this ARF and put a ST .90 on it did not mess with balancing it I just mounted the battery and reciever where the instructions said and then just put it in the air, Flys great, lands great...... This is my second plane and my first taildragger. Landings were fine and not as big of a deal as some people would like you to believe, For those that complain about landing fast I say fly a trainer or a Cub then.........This plane is not designed for floating. I thought it had great landing speed, sure it was faster than my trainer but I expected that......I think as long as you go into it thinking in the back of your mind this plane will need to be flown down intead of floated down, you'll be fine.

But overall, I was impressed with the construction and the performance! Wheels are foam which I'm going to replace but other than that it is a great value for $144

Can't wait to fly it some more....:D

Hope this helps anyone looking at this plane.

Michael