Vmar or World Models
 

I am looking for a second plane after my trainer that is rugged and cheap and ARF. It would have to be easy to repair or coat any ideas or suggestions?

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get a world models, the i had a vmar for my first model, not the best quality, then i had a WM and it was top notch quality, well it still is.

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You'd be best using a Vmar for firewood. And the Importer of Vmar is a real piece of work as well! I have a World Models Extra and its grrrrreat!

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reapr - you have got to be kidding asking this ... VMAR is a waste of time compared with WM. You can also try:

i. Phoenix Scanner ... a simple cheap but very nice to fly second plane, something you can fly without the pucker factor
ii. WM T34 ... nice to fly plane and a great first low wing
iii. WM Rambler 45 ... 40 sized plane that is nice to fly and you can feel the larger air frame helps in making the plane steadier

Of course there is your SIG 4* etc ... all nice planes.

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You're kidding right?! VMAR has it's place if you like a particular one of their planes and you have a strict budget. You may have to go behind their work a little though. WM is what you get when you really have to have quality, an easy build, and a good flier.

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For that you will be W-A-Y ahead with the any WM plane. The WM ARFs are Ultacote/Monokote covered and very easy to patch or reshrink. As to the quality, they are not in the same league - WM is tops. In my opinion VMAr is anoother name for cheap Vietnamese junk.

quint

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VMar don't make a good 2nd plane, or a 3rd or a 100th. The WM T-34 is the best 1st low winger,fly's great, strong like a tank and with an OS .46 & magic pipe its a Ferrari with wings (well ,almost!!).
You can find many other great flying low wingers like the Rambler or GP S Sporster and most look as good if not better than the T-34 but none are half as strong.

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WORLD MODELS!!!

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No comparison, World Models is number 1 in ARF's while v-mar doesn't even rank.

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Worlds Models;)

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I just finished my World Model Sky Raider Mach-II as my second model. Nice model and easy to build. Took me about 6 hours to complete. And the best part, it only costs $70.

Check out [link=http://www.theworldmodels.com/para/products/airplanedetails.php?airplaneid=69]Sky Raider Mach-II[/link]

Good luck,

Tycho

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Tychoc
This is one great flying plane. You'll love it

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I have a SkyRaider Mach II low wing with an OS 46AX and love it. The airplane is light, easy to repair and has almost unlimited vertical climb with the OS 46AX, and it's easy to fly nice. The WM company seems to have the best ARFs around.

Cheers
Harpoon

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Havent dealt with VMAR (and have heard NOTHING but bad things about them), but I have had several World Models planes and highly recommend them. Well made, fly well.
I would give another vote for what seems the most popular of their planes here, the T34. Had an OS .52 four stroke in mine and it was a blast. Finally had to retire it before it fell apart but that was no fault of the plane rather due to some idiot (me) drilling into the fuel tank and soaking the entire inside of the fuse with fuel. I put many flights on that plane afterwards with a LOT of hard landings, including a couple of cartwheels. Only repairs (other than a certain fuel tank) were adding some ply to the tail when the stab loosened up and a few bits of tape for pinholes in the covering.
Picture of it here next to my kit built Kaos and my dad's PT 40:
http://fubar1.net/rcimages/Trio.jpg

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How do these crooks from VMAR ever sell a plane? Well you know what they sat... fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me!

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No kidding! My brother and I are new to the hobby and ordered each a plane and a motor from VMAR. My plane is OK (v stik) but I'm not real pleased with the build quality, my brothers is the new stinger and he is pleased with the plane itself, but the motors, mine was the 46 and the throttle body seized up, sent it back to them over two weeks ago and they haven't said a word to me about it. A call to them and they tell me they haven't gotten it yet (when I have the UPS signature that they did).

Then my brother was running his 52 motor when it threw a rod on him!!!

Their customer service after the sale sux!

Stay away from richmonrc!

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Manfred ... my LHS bought in like a container load and sold it all, not that it was very cheap. Funny how people got for looks and will say that its a good plane. Oh well ... this we get from some so called seasoned flyers.

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I have a friend told me ;;Vmar owner from jungle ;;know nothing about RC .
but he had support from some where to try the crook to people
product mix 1/2 ;not balsa wood ;;;because some people dont know in side
if anybody have been crash from Vmar planes
please take a look

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I don't think I need to reiterate that WM is a good ARF (oops, just did it)
Just curious, though, why would you be looking at these specific brands?

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Oh, I don't know why, but many years ago I was in a Ferrari dealer's and had a guy drive in with a Yugo! - True story.

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VMAR = Pinto
World Models = Ferrari

well sorta, you get my point ;)

matt

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HEY! I had a pinto in the mid 70s!


later:D

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I'm very sorry to hear that...... :D

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A cheap plane from Vietnam is the Black Horse series ... I got the new laser cut batch of SU31 ... its cheap but after 70 flights, none of the covering has come off at all. VMARS? Well after like 15 flights the so called quality covering comes off!!! A friend of mine got the Stilletto and he wants to set it on fire!

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#1 would be a bit of a stretch I would think.