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apalsson 10-24-2009 03:23 AM

RE: Corby Starlet
 

ORIGINAL: racerchuck

bps> you know that Hobby People has a 1/3rd scale ARF kit available now, on sale , too.
I have one of those still in the box and a JC Engines, Area 40 to go with it
Just as nice as "Little Corby" but I do like the scheme better on the small one.

Here is a kit produced by the original designer of the ARF, Chris White:

http://www.venuecad.com.au/cws/images.htm

PacificNWSkyPilot 10-24-2009 09:13 AM

RE: Corby Starlet
 
Wow. As much as I don't really want to be going and building any more kits, THAT is a beautiful bird. Chris White is a talented guy for sure. I've reserved building of ONE more kit for sometimes after the next year or so, and I didn't think anything else could bump my plans to make it a Waco Biplane.....until now.

Thanks, apalsson....now I'm REALLY confused! LOL...... Man, that is NICE....


Jimbo

Coming towards you, rightside up or upside down, the low wing gets the stick. That's the LAW, and it never changes, EVER.

redball8 10-24-2009 09:35 AM

RE: Corby Starlet
 
Second that - the detail is awsome. Really goes to show how most ARF's can be quite a compromise of the full scale lines of a subject.

Didn't pick up how much Chris wants for the kit, so I sent him a note. Wonder if he is selling the kits direct?

- RB8

PacificNWSkyPilot 10-24-2009 10:04 AM

RE: Corby Starlet
 
Keep us informed.... I'll admit I'm curious. The description is a little light on the details, the cockpit photo looks great, but what level of that is included with the kit?

IS that a model cockpit? It's so good that I caught myself wondering if it wasn't just a scale photo for detailing use.


Jimbo

Coming towards you, rightside up or upside down, the low wing gets the stick. That's the LAW, and it never changes, EVER

apalsson 10-24-2009 01:12 PM

RE: Corby Starlet
 
I have been contemplating getting one of Chris's kits. I'm going to call him to get details. I will pass on any information I get

PacificNWSkyPilot 10-24-2009 04:04 PM

RE: Corby Starlet
 
Much appreciated!

Jimbo

Coming toward you, rightside-up or upside-down, the low wing gets the stick. That's the LAW, and it never changes, EVER.

apalsson 10-24-2009 04:40 PM

RE: Corby Starlet
 

ORIGINAL: TexasSkyPilot

Much appreciated!

Jimbo

Coming toward you, rightside-up or upside-down, the low wing gets the stick. That's the LAW, and it never changes, EVER.
And at slow speeds (landing approach etc), it also gets the rudder !

PacificNWSkyPilot 10-24-2009 05:12 PM

RE: Corby Starlet
 


ORIGINAL: apalsson


ORIGINAL: TexasSkyPilot

Much appreciated!

Jimbo

Coming toward you, rightside-up or upside-down, the low wing gets the stick. That's the LAW, and it never changes, EVER.
And at slow speeds (landing approach etc), it also gets the rudder !
Sez you! I just fly'em into the ground! LOL..... Oops, I meant ONTO the ground.....

No, seriously, that's a Law that I burn into my student's heads with a hot poker. Once they do that automatically, they can use the extra half-second for whatever other flight surfaces they need to attend to, such as...as you said, tweaking with the rudder. The sweet part of my little Law is that if the pilot tweaks the rudder to crab a little, and in the process causes a wingtip to drop a little, he or she will automatically adjust that without thinking. It helps students in many ways, but it has helped my pilots advance their skills very quickly, and landings especially.

Jimbo

Coming toward you, rightside-up or upside-down, the low wing gets the stick. That's the LAW, and it never changes, EVER.

Aerobatx 10-24-2009 05:33 PM

RE: Corby Starlet
 
I've been away from flying awhile, went off racing RC cars, but before I quit I had the Pica Waco and the GP Super Slybolt kits I had built, both of which gave experience with using the rudder and elevater for take offs and landings.

I was out at the field the other day and was so surprised at how many of those guys couldn't or weren't using theirs. One guy was flying a big Cub and every take off he was almost running the nose into the ground every take off run he made.

It's not easy remembering to use that left stick on take offs and landings.

PacificNWSkyPilot 10-24-2009 05:49 PM

RE: Corby Starlet
 
If you're not going to use the elevator on takeoffs and landings, that planes had better be balanced REAL nicely!

I have a funny video of my first flight with my Waco UMF. I had reduced the low rates on the elevator because of the elevator surface size, didn't want it to porpoise on me like a Cub can if the rates are too high. What I had failed to factor in was that massive round wall called a radial engine and cowl I was pushing around the sky. When I came in on approach for the first landing, the balance was actually excellent, and the plane rolled out on the mains just like the full-scale. And when I pulled back on the elevator to bring the tail wheel down to ground-steer her better than the rudder does on rollout, it just kept rolling along! That "WALL" was displacing most of the airflow and that elevator didn't even act like I was pulling on it! A few seconds later it almost stopped, then nosed over in a most ignoble display of its undersides...then fell back onto its gear.

I nearly doubled the elevator and rudder throws once I figured out why it just said no to stick. Once a taildragger is flying its tail you need rudder, but to really steer one on the field as it slows down for the return rollout you have to be able to drop that wheel to the ground and keep it there.

If I can ever get this dang upload of video figured out, I'll let you see that. Quite comical, actually, and the good part is that it's easy to see the Waco had Zero damage, so it's all really just about embarrassment!

Jimbo

Coming toward you, rightside-up or upside-down, the low wing gets the stick. That's the LAW, and it never changes, EVER.

redball8 10-24-2009 09:51 PM

RE: Corby Starlet
 
Chris White replied that the 38.5% scale Corby won't be kitted after all. There were some problems with the supplier and the project fell through. He did say he intends to compete in the NATS this year, with the Corby, so might be a good opportunity to see them both!

- RB8

PacificNWSkyPilot 10-25-2009 11:22 AM

RE: Corby Starlet
 
Would this perhaps happen to be the supplier that was making the original kits? That could explain why they suddenly stopped being available...

Jimbo

Coming toward you, rightside-up or upside-down, the low wing gets the stick. That's the LAW, and it never changes, EVER.

Aerobatx 11-03-2009 03:49 AM

RE: Corby Starlet
 
Bummer... my cat, Spike was walking on the wing yesterday, and must've started slipping and deployed his claws and broke through the covering, punching a hole in he wing.

Anyone know what the covering material is on this plane? The piece I cut out appears to have a cloth on the inside side.

redball8 11-03-2009 07:19 PM

RE: Corby Starlet
 
That is a shame. I have a few runway burns when the gear broke off, and I've been using transparent yellow over white (Monokote) to get somewhat close to the original film color. It's on the bottom, so less of an issue.

I don't think you can get that film retail; it has a white base adhesive over the color coat. It's a sort of lemon yellow shade.

- RB8

apalsson 11-03-2009 07:39 PM

RE: Corby Starlet
 
I'm pretty sure they use Oracover (Profilm). The manual might make a mention of the covering type
Most of those kits come with some spare film

redball8 11-03-2009 11:01 PM

RE: Corby Starlet
 
It's not Oracover, and the ARF had no spare film ( I bought the last two kits in the US from Graves RC). All colors of the film on the Corby 52/70 have a white backing - similar to a 52" (red) Nitroplanes P-38 I have. Isn't Oracover the same as Ultracote?

bps 11-04-2009 05:32 AM

RE: Corby Starlet
 
Well there you have it, we now know why cats are not mans best friend!:D Just kidding. I know we all love our pets, life would be a lot less fun without them. To bad about the covering tear[&o]

PacificNWSkyPilot 11-04-2009 07:17 AM

RE: Corby Starlet
 
Still, heckuva way to get a tear.  Practice flying all those years so that mitzi can walk on the wing and extend her claws just once.....<div>
</div><div>Ouch!</div><div>
</div><div>Jimbo</div>

Shubova 11-04-2009 01:20 PM

RE: Corby Starlet
 
I tried to find out what they used too but got the same comments. Some say Oracover other say Cover rite, no one really knows for sure.[sm=72_72.gif]
You’ll have to match it as best you can but there is a problem with that too. I tried different coverings but as we all know they heat up at different temperatures making it difficult to use. So that didn’t work at least not for me.
I also tried using 3 inch wide trim tape, it works but it’s hard to match the color.
In the end I just use clear tape and lived with it.[:o]
Try calling Hobby People maybe they have a wizard there who knows…here is their number 1-800-854-8471
What I have learned over the years is to save pieces that I cut away when I build, just in case I get a tear.
Oh just had an idea [sm=idea.gif]if you want to try it. I've done this with other planes. If the tear isn’t too large cut a piece from the bottom and patch it with another covering or cut a piece from the wing, were it mounts to the fus. Either way no one will know.
Good Luck
Shubova [8D]

Aerobatx 11-04-2009 01:43 PM

RE: Corby Starlet
 
I always thought Orakover was the same as Ultrakote, too, but this stuff has what looks like silk on the underside. I'm just glad he only has rear claws!! I'm gonna have to repatch because the only thing I had was SigKote, and its not matching well at all. I am glad, too, that it's in the white area.

I've got to go to the hobbyshop today, I had one of the aileron pushrods break while trying to bend the 90 degree bend.

I am planning on maiden "her" his weekend, or next week. I can't wait!!!!:D

apalsson 11-04-2009 01:52 PM

RE: Corby Starlet
 

ORIGINAL: redball8

It's not Oracover, and the ARF had no spare film ( I bought the last two kits in the US from Graves RC).
Sorry, my mistake. This is what my manual stated:
Precovered with Real Iron-On, Heat-Shrink Covering Material

I must have had the Corby confused with another of their planes, the Victa Airtourer
Also - the Giant Corby has Oracover from what I can see

Aerobatx 11-10-2009 12:59 AM

RE: Corby Starlet
 
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I've gotten my Starlet rready to fly.

Snoop's ready to go behind enemy lines and wring her out!

Just have to let "Ida" go by and should be nice this coming weekend for her maiden flight.

THANKS Reball8, couldn't have done it wihout your help!!:D

apalsson 11-10-2009 01:11 AM

RE: Corby Starlet
 
Looking great Chuck!

She is a nice flying bird. If you put a bit of expo into the elevators, she will fly even nicer !

Aerobatx 11-10-2009 03:01 AM

RE: Corby Starlet
 
Will do.

I still have to balance the plane.

Do you remember where you placed the battery for correct balance?

I'm using the Mafnum 70 four stroke.

apalsson 11-10-2009 12:57 PM

RE: Corby Starlet
 
I used the same engine. I also had a glow battery onboard under the fuel tank
From memory, the plane balanced without any additional lead, just by placing the RX battery near the glow battery. It's been a while now but I'm pretty sure this was the layout


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