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porsche 911 11-01-2002 05:29 AM

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:confused:
WHY WAS MY POST DELITED ABOUT THE VMAR ARF PC9 THAT I HAD FROM THE THREAD " VMAR TOMAHAWK OR TEXAN II "... and not delited from other " VMAR ARF threads " ..that I have said almost the same thing??????? :confused: :confused:

I thought that this site with its treads and forums was where you could ask questions and get answers about rc products weather good or bad??????????

:disappoin IF I WHANT TO DELITE ALL MY THEADS AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH " PORSCHE 911 " HOW DO I GO ABOUT IT??????????

I will stop using this form or site to ask or answer questions for fear that I will get myself or someone else in trouble if the answer is very negative or bad to a company or product??????

I will continue to read this site but I will put on my rose coloured glasses first....>>>>>>

thankyou for your time :)

mvigod 11-01-2002 03:18 PM

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Allow me to respond. It has come to my attention that some of the claims you made were totally false about VMAR. One of the products you slammed had not even shipped anywhere on the dates you posted about it and thus you could have no opinion on it like you offered (which was negative). The only prototype was in lockdown at a tradeshow so the negative comments you made make me suspect at what your motives are by attacking VMAR. You could not make those comments on those dates as the product had never been seen by you. Just curious and I have to ask...do you work for a competitor to VMAR?

Furthermore if you continue to spread knowingly false statements about any person or company posting privileges here will be revoked. I have proof that the statements you made on the dates you made them are not within the realm of possibility. Would you like to explain how you got a hold of the Tomahawk well before the 1st sealed container ever got cracked open?

steve114 11-01-2002 03:29 PM

Rock ON --- Keep it honest!!
 
This is not the place for hidden agendas, I applaud the moderators for removing your negative review of a product that you could not own.

Porsche911, why don't you explain how you could rip a product that you couldn't own?

I have to tell you that as someone who relies on the opinion of some of the old timers in this hobby, I resent your obvious bull**** agenda.

If I were the moderator, I would revoke your priviledges for clouding the minds of people who took you at your word, which it now seems was based on vapor.

What is your agenda?

How could you rip a product that you don't own. I will tell you that I told several of my flying buddies that I had read negative things about the VMAR Tomahawk based on your now deleted thread. SO I have some fence mending to do.

This is not the place for you,

Try a chat room,

I really resent being used,

Thanks moderators for controlling this troll

Steve

Oregon Craig 11-01-2002 03:33 PM

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He would be welcome on usenet. I doubt that he works for a VMAR competitor. Go up and read his post at the top of this thread. Would you hire him? I doubt that he works anywhere.

CyberPilot 11-01-2002 03:45 PM

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Hey Porsche,

You got busted. Even then, the moderator still has the decency to allow you to explain yourself (integrity points for Marc :thumbup: ) when others (including myself) would've just shut you down for good.

Before you put on those 'Rose colored glasses' why don't you clear the air and let the readers here know how you came about the product in question. Until then your credibility is shot.

C.P.

P-51B 11-01-2002 03:54 PM

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Well porsche 911....we're waiting for the explanation.

Mike Bogh 11-01-2002 04:08 PM

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Hideho all,

I was the one who nuked Porsch911's posts without an explanation. I was mailed the above proof the other day of his untrue remarks.

I didn't have either the time or inclination to refute his misinformation.

Yes, VMAR has had it's share of jusifyable bad press in the past. Remember that it's a value line of models, and thet do not advertise that they are the best available. Just that they are striving to improve the quality, and still represent value to the average modeler. Offering us choices of planes not usually ARF'd or manafactured by other companys.

mvigod 11-01-2002 05:22 PM

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To fully clarify this...

The manufacturer and the north american
distributor of the VMAR Tomahawk ARF have pointed out an inconsistency
between the release date of the first Tomahawks to the north american
market and comments contained in and/or referred to postings by
Porsche911.

As the moderators of this forum we encourage the exchange of
advice and information between modellers everywhere. When there is an
apparent discrepancy between statements and fact we carefully review the
information and then act to ensure that our members are not being
misinformed.

Accordingly, we have removed a number of postings related
to the north american release of the VMAR Tomahawk. We have taken this
step after confirming that the first Tomahawks for the north american
market were not available prior to Oct 11th and noting that Porsche911
was making comments related to various hands on attributes of the
Tomahawk more than 1 week before the Distributor had inventory. No
pre-production samples of the Tomahawk were released hence the moderator
felt that the information posted by Porsche911 was inaccurate or perhaps
should have been attributed to another item. We were unable to determine
what model Porsche911 was supposedly looping early in October but we
have satisfied ourselves that it surely was not a VMAR Tomahawk!

Lastly, we would like to point out to our members, real information about
POLYCOTE ECS is listed at www.richmondrc.com/polycote.htm and provided
with all VMAR models shipped by the distributor

porsche 911 11-02-2002 04:54 PM

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IT has been brought to my attention that I have made a TERRIBLE MISTAKE about the identity of the model that crashed at the field>>>>THANKS to all who sent picsof the TOMAHAWK I can see clearly know that this definitely was not the model that crashed
I now no that my own anger and frustration towards VMAR has caused me to assume that all models from them may be junk whether this be true or not
THE moderators where very right to remove my post as I wasbashing the wrong plane>>>>ITS very good to see the moderators are on there toes and doing there job
MY own STUPIDITY has showen me that my hatred and misgiving toward VMAR will not alllow me to be honest or objective in the future>>so therefor I will not answer or post treads related to VMAR or its products any more>>>
YES I did have the PC9 and years ago had the advenger60 and this is were my frustration has its roots...let alone the people at many clubs I vist that hate them as well>>>>

" MIKE BOGH" thankyou for the wack across the head and the big wake up call I truely deserve>>>>

A GREAT BIG APOLOGY TO TOMAHAWK AND ITS OWNERS......I hope the arf is a great deal better then VMAR of the past......

SORRY for the problems that my stupidity and mistaken identity have caused
bye from one big DOOFUSS

mvigod 11-02-2002 06:21 PM

To The Moderaters Of This Forum
 
we all make mistakes...just remember it's important to have all your facts before you speak against a person or company in a large forum such as this. We all need to be fair to the users as well as the companies that provide us with the products which we all enjoy so much.

Mike Bogh 11-03-2002 08:14 PM

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Hideho and
Forgiven and forgotten, Porsche911.

If I had a dollar for every time I stuck my foot in my mouth......

I'd buy RCU...:D


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