91" zero ARF
 

Hay, guys there is a new 91" zero ARF on giantscale plaines web. http://www.Giantscaleplaines.com. also some other nice warbirds. what is ther quality like thes days.

91" zero ARF
 

Not sure where you've been but GSP planes are over priced and the quality is poor. I know this since i own the 68inch P-51. Tptal rebuild out of the box. never again. There is much better quality for the money out there in the world.

91" zero ARF
 

91" zero ARF
 

YES' i new that the quality was( not so good )but was told that it was getting a lot better. i think it would haft to if GSP wont stay in the ARF market.

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I have GSP'S big corsair and the 68" Mustang,i've had no problems with the quality,solid designs & they are great flying birds.The corsair scale detail is amazing,looks very authenic ,esp the flaps and all weathered.I get tons of compliments on it at the field,everyone thinks its a kit until you walk up & notice its fiberglass,I'll take glass over balsa built up anyday tho-IMO.However I just went to the website & you say they have a zero now?? I dont see a zero anywhere on their website

Steve

91" zero ARF
 

Steve i just went back to the web and it is aboult 3/4s doun. look at the small pages. by the way its good to here some poss info on there new ARFs

After hearing all the negative comment about GSp
 

I would be very reticient about buying a GSP plane.


If you search the threads, the amount of negative to positive comments about the quality of GSP is staggering.

IMO, the fact that you get an occasional positive comment is no more important to note than the fact that even a blind squirrel will occasionally find an acorn.

Companies are built on their reputations. And once a company has been labled inferior, I have a hard time throwing my good dollars into there coffers with the hope that they are now better.

I would not buy a GSP product striclty based on how much negative comment I have heard here. I don't care what the ARF is, it isn't worth it.

Once they deystroy there reputation, it is real hard to rebuild it, go with a proven winner.

Enough of them exist, and more are coming every day to fill the gap.

JMO

Steve

RE: 91" zero ARF
 

I think that everybody expects a show winning plane that's perfect with no effort on their part right out of the box, when they run into a minor problem they say that the kit is junk. This is where you can separate the modelers from the assemblers, the modeler will find a way to rectify the problem and enhance the kits function or scale looks, the assembler will trudge through it and be unsatisfied with the results. Little do they realize that it's their own fault to give up and settle for a lesser way of doing things. This carries through-out the entire kit, whether it's the size of the cut-outs for the wheel size or the blending of wing fairings, they just want the best looking plane with no extra effort of their own. Unfortunately this is where the companies get their "bad rap", usually from people who don't understand that the companies can't do it all for you at the same price, if that were the case the market would be flooded with a huge bounty of great kits that require average skill to assemble. I take pride in having one of the inferior ARF's that every one condemns and turning it into a work of art that I can be proud of at the field, I must admit that half the people are amazed at the difference that a little time and effort can do for a kit. Lets face it, could you do as good a job building the ARF you just bought for the same time or money? I didn't think so, before you rate a ARF, think if you could have done things a little better to change your mind on the final product and by all means, don't blame a manufacture on quality if it's your own capabilities that's holding it back. Now on the other hand, if the kit includes inferior hardware and the parts don't fit at all, then by all means let people and the manufacturer know about the problem, but if you have never owned the plane then how can you give advise on the plane in question? Yeah, I've had 3 of GSP's planes and I felt that I got my money's worth, unfortunately I sold two of them and kept only one. But from what I inspected and saw first hand the parts fit perfect, the hardware was o.k. and it only needed minor mod's to make them a superb kit. On the flip side I have seen my LHS owner go through problems with the 80" giles 202 from them and I have had some problems with the owner of heli's and hobby in the past but not anymore. It's just like that in every company, GM made a corvette and they made a chevette the same year, just because one is good doesn't make them all good and vise-versa.
Just my comments on this subject matter about bashing companies for one kit that person owned.

RE: 91" zero ARF
 

Nope - sorry. Good ole Irwin got his bad rap long before he got into planes. Just ask any heli flier.

Todd

RE: 91" zero ARF
 

I could care less about Irwin, I just want to know how the plane is, not the people, after all, irwin didn't build the Arf kit for me!

RE: 91" zero ARF
 

Maybe not, but if you have any sort of problem, you will have deal with him, and that is not something that you will enjoy [:o].

RE: 91" zero ARF
 

I think this subject is getting a bit muddled about whether GSP is a good company to deal with, or if their ARTF's are good models. Alot of the range offered by GSP, ( which is designed and manufactured in China), is distributed in the UK by Flair Products. The models i have owned, flown or just given a good dose of looking at are good models. My brother, for instance, is assembling their Spitfire, and I have to say that the quality is absolutely first rate.
A poor distributor does not make a poor product![:@]

RE: 91" zero ARF
 

Actually I did have a problem with him once but that had nothing to do with my kit I had, I didn't let it affect how I felt about the Arf I had purchased. I, after a while, did get the issue straightened out and bought two other planes from the company with no problems. I won't call a ARF plane inferior and over priced because the guy who owns the company is difficult at times. That's just slandering a companies product based on your attitude toward someone who owns it, that has to be the poorest reason for bad mouthing a companies good product. If that's how you feel about their product then you probably would buy the same plane from another distributor. Heli and hobby is just the importer of the kit, not the maker, if that is the only thing stopping you from buying a good arf kit, then find another distributor.

RE: 91" zero ARF
 

I'm with Modelflyer99,
He gets it and is a well educated modeler, he's seen the quality first hand and will vouch for the quality of the kits. I'm not stating that it's contest winning kits, but it seems fairly good compaired to other planes I've owned. The bottom line is don't slam a good product because you don't like the supplier![:-]

RE: 91" zero ARF
 

Don't these GSP planes melt in the sun? I read that somewhere.

Yak

RE: 91" zero ARF
 

Maybe if you douse it with gas and light it on fire, but I've never heard of fiberglass melting in the sun, if any thing, it would help cure the parts. The only way that could remotely happen is if you left acetone in the plane and let it sit in the sun baking with acetone vapors building inside. The fiberglass is just the right thickness, not heavy nor paper thin, with plenty of wood formers inside. My wing is built up and not foam core and it's covered in regular iron-on film, not solartex.

RE: 91" zero ARF
 

you can buy these planes from Jett Hobbies vancouver BC These are the same thing >China model products or giant scale planes


LONNIE